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Re: September's Monthly Treasure: Gotika

Posted: Oct 1st, '12, 00:34
by Themis
Firn: I have a male avi and the Gotika top is making me have boobies o.o

Merry: Well for starters boy wigs.
I pointed it out to Firn a couple times there are about 200 Female wigs now and less than 75 male wigs. Doesn't seem fair. That is including ones I see as *can* be unisex.
Some parts of the set, as in every set, are unisex. Such as the BG, wings, the candles, and the blood tears. The eyes, lips, hair, and top I don't see as unisex. The eyes *maybe* the rest, no.
Well then for boys give us more T-Shirt options, give us job themed items, something.
Most of the main clothing, aka tops, seem really girly to me. I'm not the only one who requests more male items. I think we'd have more males on the site if things were also more manly, rather than more on the girly side.
You come to the site as a new user and you can't see the Wild Knuffels, so you don't know you can be artistic and actually have your creations made in to pets, you see a super girly site where you can hardly tell the difference between the male and female avi's, and I don't think it shows the best parts of KofK myself.
In the Tour of the Site it shows these things, but most people don't want to take a Tour like that, they want to explore and make their own little Tour xD
I know I never once have taken an official Tour of a site. If I can't look at everything myself then I don't join the site. I turn away no matter how cute.

Edit: Okay, I saw the male top in the preview, in my invo it is a girl's top, so I was judging by that. The top of this set looks pretty good for the boys. So I pleased with that.

Re: September's Monthly Treasure: Gotika

Posted: Oct 1st, '12, 00:34
by Veene
Whoa! This is a beautiful set! I cannot wait to purchase it! <3

Re: September's Monthly Treasure: Gotika

Posted: Oct 1st, '12, 00:37
by Raine Seryn
YEESSS. I love the hair! Love the eyes and lips too. And the wings are gorgeous too! TwT The whole thing is so pretty!

Now I need to get a FC. >w>

Re: September's Monthly Treasure: Gotika

Posted: Oct 1st, '12, 00:41
by Merrymaking
Have you ever been to a hairdresser's and looked into those example books they've got there? There's like a million lady hairstyles, while there are just 3 male ones... I am rather impressed she's made up 75 already while really all it can be is short or unhealthy looking. :mctongue:
There's only so many things you can do with short hair.

The top is unisex. Since, you know, it always comes in a male and female version. I think this one's rather obviously male. o.O

I'm not sure if more boys would join the site if we had more male items. Dressing up has always been a girly thing. If boys without the love for dressing things up would join the site, it'd be for the community, not really for the avatars I guess. ^_^;;

I'll just stick to my idea that it's really hard to make more male looking items since in reality there's also really not much choice for guys... Certainly not as much as there's for women... so naturally, on a virtual reality, no matter how big or small, it's really tough as well. o.O
Try it yourself otherwise. xD

And as for this set, gothic boys tend to look very female as well. ^_^;;

Re: September's Monthly Treasure: Gotika

Posted: Oct 1st, '12, 00:47
by Themis
Merrymaking wrote:Have you ever been to a hairdresser's and looked into those example books they've got there? There's like a million lady hairstyles, while there are just 3 male ones... I am rather impressed she's made up 75 already while really all it can be is short or unhealthy looking. :mctongue:
There's only so many things you can do with short hair.

The top is unisex. Since, you know, it always comes in a male and female version. I think this one's rather obviously male. o.O

I'm not sure if more boys would join the site if we had more male items. Dressing up has always been a girly thing. If boys without the love for dressing things up would join the site, it'd be for the community, not really for the avatars I guess. ^_^;;

I'll just stick to my idea that it's really hard to make more male looking items since in reality there's also really not much choice for guys... Certainly not as much as there's for women... so naturally, on a virtual reality, no matter how big or small, it's really tough as well. o.O
Try it yourself otherwise. xD

And as for this set, gothic boys tend to look very female as well. ^_^;;

Your hair dresser sucks if there are only 3 options.
I go to mine and she throws multiple books in my lap for male hair styles.
There are lots of male hair style options out there, same with clothes.
You are correct, not as many as there are for women, but there are still a lot and Firn hasn't introduced much male clothing here at all in my opinion.
As for 'Try it yourself' I have, I shop online a lot and there are TONS of options for male clothes. You as a girl focus more on women's so of course you see it as not much options for men.

Uhm I'm pretty sure the idea of this set wasn't so only Gothic people can wear it, and you don't have to be girly looking to be Gothic. Just as you don't have to be Gothic to want to use some of this set.

Guys love dressing up avi's too. They love making characters just as much as women. I play on Gaia a lot, because I'm growing less and less fond of Kofk and what not, and the guys on there change their avi's even more than the girls in most cases. 'Dress up' as you put it, isn't just for girls.

Starkad/Firn: Thanks for fixing the Gotika top.

Re: September's Monthly Treasure: Gotika

Posted: Oct 1st, '12, 00:55
by nikaz
It's so pretty!! Thank you Firn *-*

Re: September's Monthly Treasure: Gotika

Posted: Oct 1st, '12, 01:04
by Merrymaking
I meant try to design those items yourself.
You have a lot of critic but I don't see any concrete proposals.

And 'me as a girl'? No need to get offensive here. I didn't choose it, and I can't help that I have to wear horrible skirts and make-up and shop for tights nowadays because people think a woman with a tie is a wrong image. I don't believe you have any idea of my personal fashion sense at all, and of my deep loathing of a lot of female clothing.

My hairdresser sucks. Yes, they probably do, but you really don't have to talk to me like that. And how about 'a million hairstyles for women' isn't quite accurate either, because I couldn't care less to count. Of course there are more than three. It was just to illustrate the difference.

I didn't imply that gothics had to look girly, for Mika's sake, is there anything you don't literally take word for word?
Well then, you don't have to be a girl to use this set either. Problem solved. Don't like it, don't buy it, no? Unless you're determined to own every single item on this site but that's different story.

I didn't say it was just for girls. Why would I, I know there are boys on here too.
Dude, do I really have to explain every word I say? Use your imagination, sweety!

I think I'll leave it with this, 'cause we're pretty much contaminating the topic, and there's really no point discussing with you if you can't bother to understand what people mean. xD
And most of all, I don't understand your constant offense since I don't think I've said anything worth of pissing you off. So ciao. Good luck with your period.

Re: September's Monthly Treasure: Gotika

Posted: Oct 1st, '12, 01:08
by Sellesion
Oh it's so pretty!! I like the eyes hair and lips the most. <3
Interestingly enough though, I like the boy's top of this set more than the girl's dress. >w<

Re: September's Monthly Treasure: Gotika

Posted: Oct 1st, '12, 01:10
by Lan-neko
So awesome~
I love the eyes and the background. :mcglee:

Re: September's Monthly Treasure: Gotika

Posted: Oct 1st, '12, 01:15
by Themis
Your right, it is jacking with the thread, so I'll PM you.