Social games, or free-to-play games, generally do not fall under the definition of a game of chance. They may be operated without a licence, yet restrictions may apply based on consumer or minor protection laws. Games which are not free to play may be subject to gambling regulations, if prizes have a monetary value (for example, game points which can be exchanged for real money or goods).
The use of a virtual currency does not automatically change the nature of a game from social to gambling, as long as the virtual currency is of no monetary value and part of a "closed loop".
There are no specific proposals to change the existing regulation to include social gaming.

Due to the more pressing issues of solving the licensing dilemma and establishing a regulation which is compatible with EU law, there are currently no specific plans to specifically regulate social gaming in Germany

I found this regarding germany laws on "social gaming" which is what KofK is. And from what I gather, it is exactly as the US court ruling says. That since virtual cash cannot be exchange for real money. It isn't legal gambling. Once we donate to obtain then it becomes virtual cash, that gets you virtual items. Everything is "digital" that will never be able to be exchanged for real money or goods. Not gambling XD
But you guys from germany are free to research this in your own language. As I can't speak german .
So I think there isn't danger then, since KofK is based on germany and germany laws says this about virtual cash. To sue somebody not based in your country under your laws is not an easy thing to do. Your right. So I guess we are okay. I agree with you we had to consider that legal aspect, but now that it seems it's alright, it should be okay.
Let me see so far I know:
US is fine
Germany is fine
Japan is fine
Autralia is fine.
(obviously I can't research all the countries, but if your living somewhere else then you can research the country your in )
But I guess we don't have to if the site is located in germany. As long as germany laws says they're alright, and that they don't plan to revise that either lol, It'll be hard press for anyone to do anything to KofK. Plus we are a small site. I doubted anyone would in the first place.

I said all those things in general because any feature that's suggested that you need to get are taken in a negative selfish light. I was trying to highlight the way user should be thinking about instead of something that "wants to take my money". Because it really isn't. Everything that the site earns goes directly back to the site to pay for servers. It keeps the very site alive. So I think it should be thought about in that way.

I don't understand why users take "chance" "gamble" items so personally. It isn't personal. And I think it is selfish, to choose to take it personal, because user should know better. We know Firn, we talk to her, and if she chose a feature like this, then we know she had the good of the site and everyone in mind.
They aren't instituted to hurt anyone in particular. They're not scheming to pray on anyone psyche. Come on guys lol . People are demonizing something that is dead and unbiased. The only thing that can hurt you is you. And the only people who can change you is you.
It's up to the person to be responsible. Chance items are just that, chance, and people can take them or leave them. It's as simple as that. Like I said. Not the site's responsibility, not Firn's. And yes it's good for her to consider possible consequences. But as of now our only chance system which is the WK items system hasn't been taken badly at all. I would like to think that this won't be either. And with the risk of sounding corny. I think we should take a chance

The site isn't doing so well, we need more features for FC that can help it.

Of course if Firn wants to make a feature like that in FP as well then I have no problem with that. But like she said it would be difficult to determine how much an item should cost based on market value. And FEW people have 1.5million floating around . I guess you can always buy for but then would be worth 200k.
Maybe if a feature was worth like.....1 or something. And your chances increase the more you put in. Max. of 3 , maybe max of 3. And there like a "pool" of items that can be obtained and you know what items in advanced. Or something.
If we wanna go route, then maybe we can start low like 1k up to 100k the higher the food the better the chances. I think it would have to be sort of a "tire" thing. You'll have a higher chance to get something from the higher tires when more food is used. Not sure. I know you disagreed on the tier idea bcs some items would be subjectively worse then other items.

But I guess that's the point? lol. I'm not sure why people get mad about that when it's really "the name of the game XD".

I need to think about this some more lol. I'm sure others have better ideas if it was for or . Feel free to keep sending them our way

why I think getting older items should be lucked based is because older items shouldn't be easy to get. It wasn't easy to get when they were available so they should be harder to obtain now.
If you get lucky and land a good item, then that was your luck. But something fixed feels unfair to the older user who scrambled for them.

It is also why I wasn't mad when Firn put old items up for auction in the market place. I knew you had to work hard for the funds, then work hard to win the auction. You had to be there at the right place and time, and you had to hone in your snipe skills. So it was hard. It didn't feel unfair to me if for example a vampire hair was up in auction. Because it's like a 2 part thing. Win the auction, have the money. Some would call it winning the auction kind of luck as well. Luck someone else didn't out bid you.

With just having the money and buying it like that outright isn't really fair. It needs that extra level. The level of luck bcs they should be hard to obtain.

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LMAO....I didn't know there was a smilies maximum of 15??? XD XD!

They aren't instituted to hurt anyone in particular. They're not scheming to pray on anyone psyche

cyan wrote:Thanks Chrizine. My thought exactly, I just had a hard time to put them into words, so thank you for your post.

They aren't instituted to hurt anyone in particular. They're not scheming to pray on anyone psyche

Have you ever played any game that has lootboxes? They are psychological manipulation galore. The whole concept is to make you spent more than you ever would on a direct purchase.
The idea with the Knuffel drop would even have been directly bound to the donation itself. So donating becomes impossible for anyone who doesn't want to gamble.

ToxicFirefly wrote:Hey there.
Maybe this sounds dumb, but I recently looked at the older generation knuffel and wanted to ask if there is the possibility to show their evolution stages that you can see again how they look in the end.

Maybe newer user would consider buying them if they know how they turned out.

It is not easy finding the older Knuffel stages in the forum.