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Posted: May 9th, '11, 21:21
by AliceON
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.. . @ Koh: Couldyou give me the link to the test you've taken? Just to see if I took a different one.



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Posted: May 9th, '11, 21:24
by Koh
AliceON wrote:
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.. . @ Koh: Couldyou give me the link to the test you've taken? Just to see if I took a different one.



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Here you go.

Well, I'll probably get back to memes and check the hangout later.
Gonna go play Fable 3. :3

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Posted: May 9th, '11, 21:35
by AliceON
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.. . Huh, that's strange... The first time I got 19 and in a half a month I got 8 with the same OC. I just "fixed" some things.
May be you are just looking wrong at your OC? For example I realized what by giving my character some advantages (for example extra keen senses) I didn't see what thouble can they bring too. So I put my OC in a situation where this things became disadvantages and this brought more balance.

.. . So may be you just have to come back to the test in a while.
.. . @ Web: Getting a high score doesn't mean fail... I try to refrain from creating Sues now because I've created to many in the past and they were all THE SAME. That's what keeps me from "suing" at present. But it doesn't mean the character must not be a Sue. If you can explain why and reason sueness, that's ok. IMHO



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Posted: May 10th, '11, 00:13
by Koh
I see, perhaps. Though I think the reasons I had were acceptable to me.
Mainly the answers were that the OC was based a bit off myself or that it had powers.
I didn't see how the entire music section was bad (seeing as my OC is a bard and that charming by playing music is a usual bard skill in RPGs..) as well as the "having powers" of any kind, which also related to the fact my world is set like an RPG game, where people use magic. =/ I'm assuming this test was made for realistic characters, so I leave it at that. XD;

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Posted: May 10th, '11, 00:28
by Mikael Hart
@Alice: You're talking about the members' benefit to my art thread?


@Koh: I always feel bad/off when I take those tests, even if I manage to do well. I feel like characters shouldn't be boxed up into right and wrong; they shouldn't be labeled.

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Posted: May 10th, '11, 00:31
by Nuke
*falls in* Hello~

>w>

<w<

Koh- If I recall right the last OC I ran through that test got like a 60 something and he becomes a god after he dies. Only TTGL could top that. There's a scene where the mechas are throwing galaxies at each other.

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Posted: May 10th, '11, 00:45
by Mikael Hart
Hello! I'm about to eat a bit of breakfast. I thought I might get the day off today...but I didn't. .__.

How're you?

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Posted: May 10th, '11, 00:51
by Nuke
I'm good, have one more final this week and then I'm done. Then I start working again. My bday's coming up pretty fast.

Breakfast? Isn't it almost 4 where you are?

I'm trying to remember where I posted Morris' score, because I know it's probably among the highest ones for that Sue test. If he were female he'd have gotten at least 20 pts higher. I think the test is a bit sexist or maybe that's blatantly obvious. :qsweat:

Here's TTGL throwing galaxies, it's an incredibly crazy anime...

*I found the post of Morris' score. I guess he got a 27. Half of that Mary-Sue tests is asking if you're somehow romantically involved or self-reflecting in your own character... Well, everyone is semi-self-reflecting in writing (that's how literature works...) I also answered all the magic/power questions in relation to his world, so that might be kind of jipped. I'm going to make my own Mary Sue test. >.<

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Posted: May 10th, '11, 01:28
by Koh
@Mikael
I never took one before, until now. I'd have to agree, I was certain my OC is not a Mary Sue; at least not to me. However we all have our reasons and different ways to look at the question.

@Nuke
XD Well mine sort of has a god-like muse that is unlocked in certain situations (like a limit break from FF), so I suppose that would be why. He has limits though..

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Posted: May 10th, '11, 01:54
by Nuke
Morris is a healer who can bring people back to life, de-age them or suck out their life energy. He's loved by all (well most all). When he dies he realizes he's the last reminiscent of a creator god who can bestow forgiveness. It's semi-situational, but I honestly can't imagine a "worse" character via over-poweredness.

I don't know about those personal relating questions. I think it's rather stupid to ask if someone relates to their character. Literature is filled with writers who wrote about "themselves" like Joyce (Ulysses, Portrait of the artist), Wilde in the Picture of Dorian Gray (didn't he admit that he was like Basil?), Frankenstein (in that Shelley was writing about her own experience I suppose, as did Jane Austin in Pride and Prejudice.)

And Pop fictions is filled with overpowered characters "sue" characters. I think the author of that test has a real bone to pick with Twilight and probably with Bella and romantic self-notions in a character form. I think a lot of people write like that when they're younger and I think it's a normal part of development. At my age now I might have a more realistic and depressive view of reality and myself, maybe more humorous. I know in my mid and young teen years I made character exactly like what was described in the Mary Sue test, but I think it had to do more with my development on a personal level than the characters themselves.

Now I wouldn't deny that my characters are some part of me, but I think a lot of it is in retrospect and I don't use them to explore identities, I use them to explore specific ideas, maybe lives, but I'm more concerned about them as ideas. It can't be that bizarre to assume what we write is reflective of our development? The stereotypical teen is trying to find themselves, not go crazy and flesh out their desires. The stereotypical college student is exercising independence and being filled with activist notions and ideas. It doesn't seem odd to me to think that teens would try to flesh out characters who are ideals of personalities and people. 20 year olds take characters into abstraction and older writers use reflection and experience. Older writers kind of have their own artists "Late Style." I kind of idealize older writers (I mean 40+) as the best writers. But this is kind of getting into a developmental theory...

I don't think there's any point is "adding" to the score if one happens to use writing as a reflection. If you completely ignored the "is this character related to you somehow" section what would your score be?