There's nothing to apologize about; I would want the members here to treat this forum as their own; if there's anything you'd like to suggest, you're always welcome to do so. :)

Ah, I've had times like that, now and then. Even though there were a lot of characters I liked, between the time I left my old RP forum and before Faris, I didn't write as much or have as many favorites.

Aha, yeah, I can definitely see a pride issue there. XD But is there any part of him that he doesn't like about himself, or something that his girlfriend doesn't like about him? From what you've posted, it sounds like his anger is more often than not justified, and his girlfriend seems to understand his moods and acts as a balance to help calm him down.


I remember when I created Jake, flaws were the first things on my mind. There was a point in my old forum where people kept beefing up their OCs, so I thought to switch the focus for mine and Jake was created. His flaws are numerous: he has little sense of loyalty, and outwardly, he seems to care little for others at all. He's easily irritated, sharp-tongued, and arrogant; he's finicky, and lazy, and kind of a whore. XD;

To do him a little justice, though, he's intelligent and philosophical; he's introspective --real with himself (in the sense that he's rarely in self-denial). His mannerisms are cultured, and he listens well to things he deems worth hearing, he's logical enough that he can be convinced that he's wrong.


@Moi: I don't know your OCs well enough to have a favorite among them either, but I like Nia and the black rabbit's concepts. XD


@Nuke again: I keep track of most of my OCs --I have a card somewhere that marks when my firsts were created. XD


@Lunar: Ah, I see, yes, that does make a little more sense to me --flaws and imperfections are clearly different when you describe them that way. :)


I don't know whether to hand out points or not when these responses aren't exact to the topic. XD;

Hart- The thing about Shin's pride is that he would never admit that he had any self-esteem issues or any deep personality flaws. He's willing to admit he has some temper issues (when he's overly provoke, though he'll pout and fit sometimes if he's just having a bad day- though everyone does that as far as I know.) He'll admit he doesn't like to have "fun" while rolling his eyes.

Emotionally he relies heavily on his girlfriend, so he's somewhat possessive of her and if she broke it off he would be unpleasant to deal with. He'd probably be nitpicking and the kind of person who you can never please (kind of a reflection of how he felt his parents were when he was growing up. His younger siblings took a lot of the spotlight, especially his younger brothers who are twins.) He'd be a lot more moody and less tolerant and sympathetic. I'm pretty sure if his girlfriend left him he'd first try desperately to get her back and then start throwing major fits.

It would be a good developmental thing for him, though it would kind of reveal him as being an abusive person, even physically. He'd have to learn to take care of his own emotions and find something that can provide him with happiness that isn't reliant on his girlfriend. He'd probably opt for poetry and music.

@Hart 2- Ah, making cards is such a good idea. I kind of feel out my OCs but that's a great idea. *wants to steal it* I've been meaning to sort them out under categories though. I probably have some 20ish or so OCs, if I include stories it's going to be a lot more...

Lunar- Well, unless something traumatic happens, people's core personalities are unlikely to change, but circumstances are changing all the time. If a character doesn't change, doesn't learn or mature or even de-mature they're going to end up kind of flat and static. Of course there are characters like this in literature, but usually they're used to make a point or represent an idea. I don't mind that with characters, but when it comes to RP characters I think, in my opinion, they should develop and have multiple faucets.

I don't know what to tell you about your usage of the words. I guess everyone can feel about a word the way they want to, but flaw, as in the dictionary and probably to most people isn't defined as incomplete. So, it's fine that you feel that way about it, but that probably isn't going to change how it's understood.

There are probably whole programming and sci-fi communities dedicated to the idea of an actual AI, one that could be flexible and basically create itself. I've actually tried explaining how impossible this kind of coding would be to people in a comic forum that's about a Matrix-like game world, but people can go in and out of it. It's 99.9% reality- which is silly and probably MORE realistic than reality. I think they mean sensory input wise. Reality is to the individual as history is to the victors. It's through colored glasses. Our brain organized and filters a great deal of our sensory input as well. I'm going completely off topic, but creating a program that could change would probably be something like creating a program that appears to flexible, able to learn and change, but is programmed to do that, but can we actually make something that could appear that way without actually being that way? I don't want to get into that though, that's a discussion for mega-nerds (I would totally be in there debating it though... )

@Lunar: Aha, that's true. I just worry about getting too technical with you guys sometimes; I am that type of guy, after all. *headfloor*


@Nuke: But regardless of whether or not he'll admit it to himself, doesn't he have any deep flaws? And if he's in self-denial about them, then do you mean to say he isn't bothered by them, or isn't too bothered by anything about himself?

I think having graphs of some sort helps too, if you'd rather organize your OCs that way. I do it multiple ways, but since my notes are both on the computer and traditionally written, it's hard to organize quite as I like.

For me, I find it helps to think about myself and compare it to my character's maturity. At 25, I think I've gone through enough experience in life to notice the differences in myself in comparison to who I was at different ages. I can see bits and pieces of "Mikael who was in grade school," but there's less of that now, and most of the "punkish and sarcastic Mikael in high school" is gone, though that side of me flares up every now and then, depending on the situation. Then there's the "naive and happy-go-lucky spontaneous Mikael in early college" to consider, and when I look at those different stages in life, I've changed, but put together they still make up who I am today.

I would think that characters go through the same sort of thing.

@Lunar: I wouldn't think that you guys are the type to throw up much of a fuss about such things. XD

In an RP, isn't it difficult to play a timid character? I would think it is, because the writer generally ends up relying on the other person's characters to initiate conversations and keep things going. I had a character who started out as an introvert before, but he came with the mindset of getting out of his comfort zone and striving to overcome his insecurities. In the end, the more I learned about him, the more I realized how bizarre he actually was. XD

Lunar- Alrighty...? Disagreeing with logic goes over my head.

*shrug* I went to community college.

Hart- You wouldn't call being emotionally needy, having blinding rage tempers, borderline physically abusive, prideful and impossible to please flaws? Uuuuh, I don't think I understand the topic, so nevermind me.

I agree, I think characters do grow up and go through different stages. Some of them have had ... more bizarre stages than others.

I don't find it difficult to play timid characters in RPs. I don't play completely shy ones, but their behavior says a lot when and attracts attention even when they're not purposefully interacting, at least that's how I tend to get my more quiet characters into interaction.

Autumn is suppose to be kind of timid, but she/he acts very nervous and fidgety around other people- which inevitably attracts attention.

@Lunar: Yay, page 300! :D

Uh, either for fics or for RPs is fine. I just tend to relate things to RPing, as I'm an RPer first and foremost. XD;

I don't think I have many of the crazy types; definitely none among my old eight or any in my new ones. I find psychotic characters to be more erratic and less relatable to myself; there's also not much room for character development --as I see it, they're more there for the writer's enjoyment than anything --not that there's anything wrong with that. XD;


@Nuke: I think I missed something somewhere in our conversation. *headfloor* Either that or I didn't understand what you were saying --of course the thing you stated just now are pretty bad. But what is "borderline physically abusive"? It sounds like you're saying he could be abusive, but isn't just yet?