AliceON

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..................................... ............. ...I hate it when my signature looks wider than my posts... ...so I'm making these posting formats to compensate the size... ...yeah... ...I do...
.. . Ok, reading 5 pages is hard, but I really-really-really like the topic. XD.. . @ Hart:Mikael Hart wrote:What I was talking about for the topic, however, is more of the character's perspective on these flaws, rather than the writer's. Does he recognize his own flaws? Do they hinder him in any way? What do other characters think about these flaws? Does he have flaws that are absolutely negative? Yeah, I see what you've put in the topic. I'm just making use of the fact that I can look at the character from any side, from any other character. So when I say "he's like this or like that" these are just my words but when I say that because of "being like this and that" he can be offencive and difficult to deal with I mean some of the characters think so or are experiensing this. It's by no means my dislike of his traits. Just to be more exact: The marriage of Kifrad and Jasem was an arranged thing. He married a random person because his family forced him to marry someone and the only thing Kifrad wanted from his bride is being a mere mortal. By the way it's his obstinacy: they want him to get a wife - ok it's going to be a human girl to spite them. (At that time werewolves became really picky about heirs as a werewolf + human couple could not give birth to children. Yes, I've written this ma-a-any pages ago) However Kifrad ended up falling in love with his wife. Just fancy, he was lucky enough to choose a completely random person and it didn't turn into a fatal mistake! Miracle! But ok, it's not about his luck, just that he fell in love with his own wife. Jasem was not so enthusiastic but was like "ok...". She'd been brought up in a society close to our medieval times concerning the husband and wife relations. But when they suddenly meet again in a completely different place after about 4 years (originally 89 but I changed my mind) of being sure that the other of them was dead, Kifrad sees her as a wife and wants her to belong to him while she is like "wake up, idiot! we are nearly strangers! I'm glad that you are alive, but don't even think I'm going to be yours!" It seemed natural for Kifrad that they were a couple and he was not careful enough to check first what Jasem thinks. And naturally he made a mistake when he tried to behave as her husband. From this point the conflict is that Jasem is as stubborn as Kifrad is persistant. It's like two mules who are not going to let each other have it. Now she would not even think of him as a man to consider because of the... spirit of defiance? And the more he tries to win her favour the more it irritates her. As you see his obstinacy causes him problems. Luckily he's clever enough to realize that a few more attempts to win her heart and he's going to lose her, so he stops when it's late but not too late. I give him much patience to compensate this flaw/imperfection. (yes, I do want her to love him too, but this my wish has nothing to do with the reality of their life. lol) As for his own thoughts about himself... I think he does not really feel uncomfortable about his traits in general, but in cases like this he might hate some of them. At least I guess because of Jasem he regrets now being so self-assured. He also had difficult relations with his brother, but I haven't developed this part of Kifrad's past well enough yet.Mikael Hart wrote:I can see bits and pieces of "Mikael who was in grade school," but there's less of that now, and most of the "punkish and sarcastic Mikael in high school" is gone, though that side of me flares up every now and then, depending on the situation. Then there's the "naive and happy-go-lucky spontaneous Mikael in early college" to consider, and when I look at those different stages in life, I've changed, but put together they still make up who I am today. Oooh, I always seem to get to back to "this was my world-view when I was in kindergraten", "this way I interracted with my little cousine when I was 7", "this way I thought about love and friendship when I was 15" and so on. And I'm afraid I'm still what I was in kidergarten. XD My OCs definitely have more development that I notice about myself. lolMikael Hart wrote:I'll PM Ocean asking her if I can share the list of traits Oh do please!!!.. . @ Nuke: Ah, I like your characters! XDNuke wrote:I'm also playing a lowlife, street elf. He's a "talker," he likes to provoke people, say terrible things and manipulate people and situations. He acts like he finds everything amusing and I've had people PM and comment on how annoying he is, but he's a fun character. It seems like some people find him annoying and some people like him. He's very much a trickster. This one especially!.. . @ Lunar: I'm going to disagree with you. IMHO flaws=imperfections. if the character is not complete it is neither a flaw nor an imperfection. It's just an incomplete character. lol I can name flaws of characters (what I dislike, whatthey dislike, what other characters dislike, what the readers dislike), but I cannot name a trait that would make a character complete if it isn't. Purely my personal opinion. I wanted to share it. And I'm glad everyone agrees with what Nuke wrote:Nuke wrote:I guess everyone can feel about a word the way they want to *hugs Lunar* But I like your "weird-ness" so much! Maybe because I don't see any? What do you think? XD.. . @ Zia: I discover sometimes that I really like some of my sues from the past. I've got my very first sue who I feel ashamed of now, but I really like my latest sue! They are different but have some things in common. I've said "farewell" to both of them, but with one it was like "get out and never come back, you &*$#@^%!!!" and with another it was like: "good buy, dear girl! I will not write about you again but I wish you happiness!" XDZiaheart wrote:"Write what you know" and I figured I know myself the most out of anyone out there. So I do draw on my self and my personality when I write. But my characters are still different people, I hope. I guess with my curent 4 main characters I've based them on my personality like... I've devided my known traits (those I'm aware of) in four sets. Then I added these sets of traits to the raw OCs. Like I had some ideas about a character but to know him better I've given him a bunch of my own traits. This way I can see his/her reasons and motives much better. I can put 4 different OCs in a situation to test how well the personalities combined. And I try to make sure that if the OCs have anything in common - it's not a feature they share with me. So I can have something in common with one character but not with two or more... . That was loooong but I kind of did it!!!! Yay!!!! XD
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