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Re: [??][?ì??][??????s]

Posted: Jun 10th, '10, 16:14
by mercu
That's just a stereotype. :/
And even if some do fit your description, then it's partly the society's fault. -.- Ever heard of the self-fulfilling prophecy? IMO these people should be helped, not discriminated against. >.<
If I were to be honest with you, your own English is not perfect, either... So try to be a little more understanding, perhaps. ^^;

@ms: Alright, bye~. <3
Thanks! And good luck to you, too, whenever your next exam is! o:

Re: [??][?ì??][??????s]

Posted: Jun 10th, '10, 16:16
by manga slayer
mercu: it's tomorrow!! ^^
bye *3*

Re: [??][?ì??][??????s]

Posted: Jun 10th, '10, 16:25
by Ha Ru
mercu wrote:That's just a stereotype. :/
And even if some do fit your description, then it's partly the society's fault. -.- Ever heard of the self-fulfilling prophecy? IMO these people should be helped, not discriminated against. >.<
If I were to be honest with you, your own English is not perfect, either... So try to be a little more understanding, perhaps. ^^;

@ms: Alright, bye~. <3
Thanks! And good luck to you, too, whenever your next exam is! o:


Well i learned in just 2 years .. and before that i didn't know any kind of it.. okay then but you should know that isn't just me with this view.. every citizen think about this... gipsy problem.. even at TV (i don't watch it to much because of the language and half-naked girls) but you know.. if you would be living here .. i am sure 100% sure you would change your view.. about helping them .. okay maybe helping the romanians but not the gipsy.. they don't deserve anything.. you know i had a problem with them...

i was outside with a friend.. and a little gipsy come close to us and asked to ( not really like: "can i?") he told: give me some juice!! .. and i told him .. "i don't want.. i don;t know you" ... and then he slapped me on by but ._. really shy.. and call his other friends.. and try to make me give up.. but i didnt and i walked away and they were saying " okay okay next time you will" .. like a threat

manga: good luck!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Re: [??][?ì??][??????s]

Posted: Jun 10th, '10, 16:31
by mercu
That... Is really hard to believe. >___<;
...You know, I notice you never said where you're actually from.

Re: [??][?ì??][??????s]

Posted: Jun 10th, '10, 16:33
by Lilandra
I hate it when people comfirm prejudices. I mean, you want to be open-minded, you want to think the best of everyone and they behave like that.

I'm tired of people defending everyone simply because they're part of a minority. Why can't gypsies by morons? Simply because they're oh so poor and oh so misunderstood? In my opinion, rules apply to everyone, not only to the majority of a nation!

And as far as I can tell, many minority people take advantage of the fact that it's not political correct to critisize them. :qs:

You see, they're discriminating themselves with their behavior. If they just behave properly (and many of them do! Only racist would say anything against those who behave properly!), nobody could tell them bad without making himself look like a racist.

Re: [??][?ì??][??????s]

Posted: Jun 10th, '10, 16:40
by Ha Ru
well.. let me find you an youtube clip.. you will see...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OBZPD-A2 ... re=related

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5d-y9eqhH1E

in this clicp(second) the 2 of them who run to the camera.. were saying "da-ne bani...da-ne 10 mii" meaning "give me money.. give me 1 RON"
ron=romanian money
okay.. some of them are really good.. the one who stays in big city..

Lilandra: okay.. u know i am not racist.. i don't hate them or whatever... but simply i can't stand with them...

Re: [??][?ì??][??????s]

Posted: Jun 10th, '10, 16:44
by Lilandra
Ha Ru, that's what I'm saying. You don't hate them for what they are, you simply can't take their behavior, and that's perfectly understandable!

I mean, can't they just ask for help? Like: "Please help me, I'm poor and hungry." and look nicely? Why is it that give them the right to demand money? They can ask and some may want to help them, but they didn't do anything for it (e.g. work), so they have no right to demand it! Or to threaten hard-working people who don't want to give it to them if they are so rude!

Re: [??][?ì??][??????s]

Posted: Jun 10th, '10, 16:50
by Ha Ru
Lilandra wrote:Ha Ru, that's what I'm saying. You don't hate them for what they are, you simply can't take their behavior, and that's perfectly understandable!

I mean, can't they just ask for help? Like: "Please help me, I'm poor and hungry." and look nicely? Why is it that give them the right to demand money? They can ask and some may want to help them, but they didn't do anything for it (e.g. work), so they have no right to demand it! Or to threaten hard-working people who don't want to give it to them if they are so rude!



yeah u are right... you know.. on streets there are:
poor old ppl asking for help
people with disabilities asking for help(with money)
and gipsy..

from those 3 categories.. i just give money for the old ppl and ppl with disabilities... because they don't follow you everywere u go if you say "i don't have money" like gipsy do.. they say "okay.. it's fine.. thank you for listening us" ...

Re: [??][?ì??][??????s]

Posted: Jun 10th, '10, 16:53
by mercu
@HaRu: Okay... But...
I don't really see the point of the 1st clip, unless they vandalized that car. o-o

@Lilandra: I wasn't defending them just because they are a part of a minority. :/ I just think that judging the whole population on what some of them do is wrong. Because it's really hard to believe that all gypsies are bad and should be shunned. :/
Besides, a lot of people speak badly of them, and yet I've never seen a single gypsy do anything like that!
Although I can see where HaRu is coming from, after hearing about how things are where she lives. o-o;

Re: [??][?ì??][??????s]

Posted: Jun 10th, '10, 17:00
by Ha Ru
Mercu: well i did a big mistake.. i didn't want to say that all of them are the same..
some of them had become big ppl here... i have gipsy neighbours that aren't rude ... if they were splitted and not staying all together .. like a family of 22323947873 members... they wouldnt be so rude or sloppy...

and where do u think i am? ~ ^^