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 Post subject: Re: Summer Fairy Coin Discount Offers! [LAST DAY!]
Posted: Jun 29th, '11, 16:28    


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If you donate now the Fairy Coin discount is still in effort, even if the donation only goes through in a few days.

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 Post subject: Re: Summer Fairy Coin Discount Offers! [LAST DAY!]
Posted: Jun 29th, '11, 16:31    


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Really? Ok thanks, then I'll make sure to donate before the end of the day. c:
Fairy coinsss *Q*

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 Post subject: Re: Summer Fairy Coin Discount Offers! [LAST DAY!]
Posted: Jun 29th, '11, 16:48    


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Keep in mind that "the end of the day" is midnight German time though. The same time Knuffel digs and the Summer Quiz reset.

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 Post subject: Re: Summer Fairy Coin Discount Offers! [Over]
Posted: Jun 30th, '11, 04:01    


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i hope you got enough donations to make it worthwhile to do this again! especially since i meant to donate again and thought it ended on the 30th :-(

i wonder if it would be worth having some sort of permanent bulk discount? not necessarily such a large amount of FC, and maybe only starting at donations of $20 or more? i like to donate in larger amounts mainly because it's less of a PITA than doing it in bits & spurts, but perhaps even a few extra coins for higher amounts would encourage others do do so as well.

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 Post subject: Re: Summer Fairy Coin Discount Offers! [Over]
Posted: Jun 30th, '11, 10:25    


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Before we can decide whether we will offer something like this again in the future or even make something similar a permanent thing we first need to see what impact this offer will have for the future donations of KOfK.
Because if it might mean that users will now not donate at all for the next couple of weeks because of the stock of FC many people have now and in the end we just end up with less donations in total this could be a problem for the site
But this is something we still need to find out. :mctongue:

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 Post subject: Re: Summer Fairy Coin Discount Offers! [Over]
Posted: Jun 30th, '11, 14:34    


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Firn wrote:Before we can decide whether we will offer something like this again in the future or even make something similar a permanent thing we first need to see what impact this offer will have for the future donations of KOfK.
Because if it might mean that users will now not donate at all for the next couple of weeks because of the stock of FC many people have now and in the end we just end up with less donations in total this could be a problem for the site
But this is something we still need to find out. :mctongue:


well, i just donated again anyway, and i'll be doing it again next week on payday, so it hasn't affected my donating. :mccute: had i not spaced on the end date, i would have increased my donation to the higher amount to get the maximum extra FC, but what i did donate is pretty standard for a non-payday week.

if you ever did it permanently, it should be smaller- not enough to upset the applecart because people are rolling in FC, but enough for people to go, "hmm, just a couple more dollars & i'll get that extra FC" so someone that was going to donate $5 or $15 or whatever will just go ahead to the next level. something like 1 extra FC for every $10 (or equivalent price in euro) increment. and you could just do it 'temporary' for however long you need to see how it affects donations.

but thanks for at least running a special like that once, it was great! :qsml:

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 Post subject: Re: Summer Fairy Coin Discount Offers! [Over]
Posted: Jun 30th, '11, 14:44    


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It might not affect your donating, but we still have to see how it affects the one of the majority of our users.

For some it might be hmm, "just a couple more dollars & i'll get that extra FC" and might motivate them to donate more, but for some users it might just as well be "I need 5FC, now I can get them for $10 instead of $12.50",
There probably might just as well be users who need a certain amount of FC and will not donate more when they have reached the number of FC.

What I mean is, yes, it could be this way around, that a user A would normally just donate $7.50, but with a discount would donate $10 to get one additional FC "for free", but it could just as well be that a user B wants 5Fc, would usually donate $12.50, but now will only donate $10, which would make us end up with less donations.

We will just have to see whether user A behavior and user B behavior mixed together will make us end up with the same amount we usually get within a month..
For now I don't have any plans to implement these discounts permanently or even just for future events.
I think the donation development needs to be watched for a couple of months now before any kind of decision can be made.

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 Post subject: Re: Summer Fairy Coin Discount Offers! [Over]
Posted: Jul 5th, '11, 12:48    


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Firn wrote:It might not affect your donating, but we still have to see how it affects the one of the majority of our users.

For some it might be hmm, "just a couple more dollars & i'll get that extra FC" and might motivate them to donate more, but for some users it might just as well be "I need 5FC, now I can get them for $10 instead of $12.50",
There probably might just as well be users who need a certain amount of FC and will not donate more when they have reached the number of FC.

What I mean is, yes, it could be this way around, that a user A would normally just donate $7.50, but with a discount would donate $10 to get one additional FC "for free", but it could just as well be that a user B wants 5Fc, would usually donate $12.50, but now will only donate $10, which would make us end up with less donations.


yes, i can see your point. i guess i've just done too much retail, i think of it like when a store runs a sale on something. some people will come in just for the sale item, some people who might normally just browse or came in to buy other stuff will buy the sale item on impulse, some people who come for the sale item might buy multiples, and some will come in for the sale item & buy other merchandise too- and in all cases, the idea is to get them to come back again & spend more. i guess donations don't necessarily work that way.

Firn wrote:but it could just as well be that a user B wants 5Fc, would usually donate $12.50, but now will only donate $10, which would make us end up with less donations.


another good point. though perhaps user C will think, "hmm i was already planning on spending 12.50 because i needed five, i might as well still spend that same 12.50 and get 6"

i must say i am curious to know how it will affect the donation levels in the long & short run.

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 Post subject: Re: Summer Fairy Coin Discount Offers! [Over]
Posted: Jul 5th, '11, 13:05    


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It is only the 5th, so maybe it is a bit early to already make any statements, but since we usually get a majority of our donations at the beginning of the month, when the new Monthly Treasure is released I can tell so far that the effect is pretty devastating. We got maybe around 2-5% of the donations we usually get so far. ^^,

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 Post subject: Re: Summer Fairy Coin Discount Offers! [Over]
Posted: Jul 5th, '11, 13:07    


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I don't know about other users, but I have a limited budget for donations.
This is the only site I really donate, but as I don't have any income at the moment I can't spend much money, just in case I might need it later for important issues such as living ;D

The offer was very tempting, so I did an extra effort. But it means:
a) My budget is already over. I won't have money for donations in a while.
b) I already have enough FCs to get those items I might want in the next TT/MT releases.

I'm inclined to think some other people will be in either (or both) situations, so I agree this might mean less donations in a near future.

Of course, time will tell.
But I really hope the discount does not mean any kind of financial problem for KofK!!

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