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Re: ⁂＊ℭonfetti ℜain＊⁂
Posted: Jun 6th, '20, 22:13
by memoriam
Haven't heard, so who was the Jack Ripper after all? :o
Re: ⁂＊ℭonfetti ℜain＊⁂
Posted: Jun 6th, '20, 22:57
by Moi
Well, seems like he wasn't officially identified, but DNA analysis points to a barber named Aaron Kosminski - who was a suspect.
I was under the impression that they were 100% sure of it but people are like "It's true! No, it's not true!" >Bu
Either way, he was a suspect and he seemed to have a hatred for women u8
It's funny because a lot of people think it was a woman doing it.
My mom is one of those people u8
Re: ⁂＊ℭonfetti ℜain＊⁂
Posted: Jun 6th, '20, 23:05
by memoriam
I mean... women can be bitches XD
Re: ⁂＊ℭonfetti ℜain＊⁂
Posted: Jun 7th, '20, 00:59
by Moi
It's one thing to not like women and it's another to hate them so much that you just want to torture and kill them 8u
Like what did I do to be hated? Exist? >8u
Re: ⁂＊ℭonfetti ℜain＊⁂
Posted: Jun 7th, '20, 14:40
by jacobgrey
From what I read when that news came out, the Kosminski thing was really just a way to sell someone's book. There's still no definitive proof about whether he was Jack or not. I think there won't ever be, stuff like DNA evidence isn't possible because they didn't follow proper crime scene procedure to preserve the DNA and keep it safe (because of course they didn't know they had to). As I've been reading in my forensics course, so many things can affect DNA testing. Like even if you have two bodies within the same grave you could never, ever be sure you had the right DNA results because of the way that DNA can conmingle and contaminate everything just by proximity.
So take for example a piece of clothing taken a victim, which is what they used. Here's all the ways it could have been contaminated:
1. DNA on there from BEFORE the murder. They were prostitutes, so for example, from any and all clients she had that day/since that piece of clothing was last washed, anyone she lived with, anyone she brushed by in the street, etc
2. DNA from the person that found the body if they touched it or even just stood over it (especially if, and the same for all below, they were sweating/crying/somehow dropping other bodily fluids)
3. DNA from the police investigators on the scene
4. DNA from the coroner who took the clothing from the body, and anyone who touched it there, for example to bag it up or put it away
5. DNA from literally any person who came into contact with it for the whole time it was in storage, during most of which it would not have been in sterilised conditions
6. DNA from items stored in the same place as the clothing, if they were touching or it was placed on the shelf/box/whatever where a previous piece of evidence was placed
And that's even before you get to modern possible contamination. If all steps aren't followed to the absolute book, it's possible, and even common, for contamination from the person doing the testing, from previous tests and samples that have been in the lab that day. There was a high profile tester recently who got struck off and caused a lot of controversy because her lab was found to have tons of contamination dating back years, and this affected some cases where people had been convicted on the strength of DNA analysis alone.
Not to mention that some parts of DNA are passed down through the mother and some from the father and the mother. So a female lineage is best for tracking ancestors, but it's not common to find an unbroken female line for those purposes. As you get further away in generations from the person you're testing for, the results become less accurate. They will only share a percentage of DNA and the percentage you need to get a scientifically acceptable positive will also drop. In other words, matching to relatives is great for parents, siblings and children; less great for grandparents, grandchildren, and cousins; and really not great for the next generation down.
So, TL;DR: DNA analysis from Victorian times has a really, seriously low chance of being accurate, even if it does come up with a seeming result XD
@Mem thanks haha! I forgot that thread of discussion because I got so involved in crime talk 
Re: ⁂＊ℭonfetti ℜain＊⁂
Posted: Jun 7th, '20, 22:44
by Moi
Yeah, I guess it was too good to be true 8u
FUCK uB<
-beats person with their own book- uB<
I remember one case where this woman was found dead in this small village and they were able to figure out who the killer was because there was only a certain gene that only the males carried in this specific family 8u
Re: ⁂＊ℭonfetti ℜain＊⁂
Posted: Jun 8th, '20, 14:29
by memoriam
Wooooah, I'll never trust DNA tests again XD
@jacob: Lol, don't worry, this topic is investing
Re: ⁂＊ℭonfetti ℜain＊⁂
Posted: Jun 9th, '20, 20:39
by Moi
Well, you don't usually just go on DNA alone.
Like what was mentioned about JonBenét's underwear and the DNA on it. Could have been from the people who made it.
But he was a suspect and they allegedly found his DNA on a victim's shawl and solved the crimes.
But >Bu
Another good one is what happened to Amelia Earhart.
I know most likely they ran out of fuel and either landed somewhere desolate or the plane crashed into the ocean and blah blah blah.
But most people want to know exactly what happened.
And there's been a lot of theories and theories proven false.
Last I heard, they found some bones that were sent to be tested.
Dunno nothing else 8u
I'm about to watch this lady who does true crime stuff talk about the new suspect in Madeleine McCann's case.
She's actually the person that I learned all the info I shared about Madeleine McCann from 8u
Re: ⁂＊ℭonfetti ℜain＊⁂
Posted: Jun 11th, '20, 12:30
by jacobgrey
The Amelia Earhart one kind of annoys me, because what do people expect? They crashed or landed somewhere and then died, the end. What are you going to do, communicate with her ghost to find out what her last words were or something? There's never going to be something like finding an actual plane with clear marks of how it happened and a diary written on the side of the fuselage in blood giving to the minute updates until they died. Every few years there's a thing like "the mystery may finally have been solved!!!!!" but it's not a fricking mystery, it's not like they could have survived and gone away to live in Brazil. They died! That's what happened! There's so many other cases where planes disappeared and no one says they're a mystery, because it wasn't a famous woman involved in them. Planes used to go down a lot and they didn't have any way to track them, so a lot of people 'disappeared' that way over decades and decades before they put in things like black boxes and long distance radio. Even today we can see it with the Malaysian Airlines plane. They went down, and that's it.
/rant
I guess I get more annoyed because I used to be really invested in this mystery and then one day I read about how they actually found bits of evidence that almost certainly show the plane went down, but just no way to definitively prove it in a way that would shut up the conspiracies, and I was like "oh. that's it?" and I felt duped that I believed it was a mystery for so long. I'd read crazy theories and nope, they just crashed.
Re: ⁂＊ℭonfetti ℜain＊⁂
Posted: Jun 11th, '20, 13:09
by Lady River
helllooo
sorry I haven't been on in ages. Iso got to me, and life, and studies.
I'm still isolating but my country is slowly relaxing the restrictions, depending on the state's laws for it though.
However I just still didn't wanna risk it.. but I am going bit stir crazy