I think it's similar with wedding gifts on Polish weddings. People either give money (they give some even if they bought a gift) or the couple prepares a list of things they want and then it's the families' problem to get the things XD I very much rather the money. I want to pick my own stuff. But there is something in our mentality that the newlyweds shouldn't start their life together on minus

Exactly, let's be legal XD I've even tried to convince him with a loan, because it's easier to get it for a young marriage than just for two people who are not legally together, but he said "I won't marry you for a loan " which is like omg I love you even more but... WHY?! Why U do dis to me man?! You break me tiny heart
I'm sure I didn't list all of his conditions He's overthinking things. Not that getting married isn't an important decision but come effing on, 7 effing years gimme a break x.x
Apparently living with a third person (currently my grandma) doesn't count for him as living together. He wants to see how it'll be when it's just the 2 of us. (*sings* Just the two of us ) But I mean, dog damn you man, do you really think anyone who's sane is able to pretend a normal person for over 3 years of living together (because it does count you stubborn moron! >n<)? Really? So that's how you trust me after 6,5 years of relationship? I feel like an experimental mouse x.x He told me "I'm not sure if you're going to be a good mother and wife, you're moody and sometimes lose control over yourself and I'm afraid once we have a kid you'll forget all about me". Well, do you want a woman or a cyborg? ;>_> Everybody loses their temper from time to time, and I've improved a lot (I'm just a ball of stress, that's all -.-;) and well, babies need attention, but I keep in mind that the baby won't be the only important person in the house, I'm not keeping you as my breeding stallion or something, who do you think I am? Ugh, you idiot.
/end rant "orz Oh dear dog... so sorry for that

Who wants puppies?! 8u *blows the dog whistle and runs* #diversion

Yeh, we definitely have the wedding gifts list too :3 Although you might end up getting like 50 plates, 40 wine glasses and 3 rice cookers if people don't co-ordinate. Well my friend has a lot of younger people on her guest list as she's a mentor from church. I imagine they won't be able to give her money as a wedding gift.

A loan is very romantic hahaha. Why are men so oblivious ;-; I can understand why my bf wants to wait at least 5 years, because he's the child from a second marriage (his father was divorced from his first wife) and it was probably awkward growing up with troubled half brothers that were 20 years his senior. Ehhhhh, it totally counts =_= why doesn't it count? It's like if we had room mates instead of a grandmum. Does it mean we've never lived together?????? Marry yourself mem, put a ring on your own finger olol. Luckily Goose and I won't be having children so the children topic doesn't come up. We just have to not kill each other when we move in together and also get a cat lol Also he wants one room with carpet (permission denied).

Oh you guys, speaking of marriage and all.

And I just broke up with my boyfriend >.> I don't know how the situation could have changed that much to the beginning. Mem can probably remember how I was in love and talking/writing about him all the time.. And now the feelings kinda disappeared. Puff. But this was the worst break-up so far... Anyway, I am fine :)

I want to marry, too, but I am satisfied with a small wedding as well. I don't know if this is possible as I am Russian and we Russians like to drink and party and like provide everyone with tons of food and Wodka (really, no prejudice, but we all drink and like this drink). I wonder if it is even possible to have a small wedding with such a grand family and the Russian background. But I would love to only invite my friends and brothers. I am not too fond of my parents and the other 'adults' of my family. I like the people from my generation, but uncles/aunts and such are almost all kinda very traditional and boring. And venomous.

I want to kinda keep my name. It's actually a German name although my parents and I were not born here in Germany, but my dad has German ancestors, that's why we also moved here. I think only my family has that name so I kinda do not want it to die out.
I don't know if it would be alright for me not to marry, I guess so. But I want a ring. I am still a woman, right xD? Totally old-fashioned, but I want a ring.

And mem, the conditions of your boyfriend sound totally responsible and right in my ears, although I would also be pissed at number 2. Sure, everyone struggles from time to time and nothing/basically nothing is meant to last forever or let's say it's difficult to live together with one person for the rest of one's life, but after 6.5 years he should be pretty sure if he wants to spend even more time with you.

We met online on a forum called animeleague.

Then in 2009 we met up in person.

Yeah it's comfy :)

Ooh I hear those are hard to heal.

Poshi - no prouds here but the store I got my ring at is here in town xD But when Peter bought it, it was resized to a ring I used to wear on that finger.... ^^;

@Poshi: Well, if the guest list is young then it may be a problem either way xD

As in 5 years of reationship or of living together?

It doesn't count for him, because a presence of another person may be infuencing me and dog forbid I may be acting differently than I would naturally. Or something. I don't know, I think he's seen my worst, if anything would change it would be me being more relaxed because I'd finally be in my own place x.x So I can only get better.
You reminded me: he doesn't want a cat. A dog, two even, sure! But no bigger than starting from his knee. "A cat? WTH R U tellin' me, female?"
I'm still getting a cat and he's supposed to love it to death, I don't care, I want that little asshole ball of fur

@Julez: Oh no Julez, whyyy??? D: How is it even possible to just disappear? DX Well, at least you're fine, so that's good

Ha, you think only Russian weddings are like a vodka-fall? XD Polish weddings are the same, which usually ends in pathetic stories/photos/videos etc. ;>_> They sometimes go viral on Youtube XD
I think a wedding with just the closest people is far better. At least you're not stressing that much because you know them well and trust them and don't feel weird and out of place on your own wedding/reception x.x

You're entitled to the ring, you're a girl! XD Though, if we're to be VERY and TOTALLY old-fashioned... at least in Poland, men used to get engagement rings as well I could get him a signet... but it would probably have to be customized 'cause he's so picky x.x

I knooow, he's repsonsible and I agree with most of it. But come on, almost 7 years. 3-4 years of living together. And the funny part? He acts like he's sure of me. That's why when I hear he isn't it's just a big effing WTF moment for me, because he doesn't show any hesitation about being with me. And lately we've been great, so I'm not really sure if I can trust his behavior, because maybe in afew months something will come up and I'll hear again that he's not sure if I'm gonna be a good wife. x.x Talk about sending mixed signals

@River: Wow, so long ago

I only heard it hurts a lot to get piercing in there x.x

@Julez
Sorry to hear but glad you're fine :3 Sometimes feelings disappear, that I can understand especially after spending so much time together sometimes the person can start to grind your gears.

Asian people have big weddings too xD Invite all the distant relatives which I do not want. It's not like I'm on bad terms with family members, it's just I don't have the money to pay around $150 per head at the reception. *dies. Plus it would be totally unbalanced, my giant ass family of 100 vs my boyfriend's group of like 20.

I like vodka mixed in drinks. Not judging :3 Keep that name GURL. I might keep my name. My bf's surname is Krajsic and his father was Serbian but grew up in Australia at a young age. I want a cool surname as opposed to "Dang". I'd be happy with either but maybe going through documents/accounts and changing my name would be a major hassle I rather not go through lol (lazy).

@mems
5 years of relationship haha!

Get a cat and a dog. Compromise! :3 Maybe they'll become best friends and it'll be the cutest thing ever. Man you got to be tough if you've been holding back for 7 years D:< I think my bf knows I'm too weird to be holding back. I'm so in his face I'm surprised he can even tolerate me.

Thanks guys! I am really fine.. I was totally sad the first two days, I was so glad my best friend visited me exactly after the break-up, so I could talk it all out with her... That was fantastic, I am so happy to have her. And my other friends were such cuties as well. All caring for me and giving me food xD
Yes, feelings disappear.. That's always my problem. Next time I will really take a long time before getting together, only when I am sure the feelings will remain for a longer while..

Actually I am not too fond of my name, but I came to like it over the years :)

Poshi, but names sound interesting to me. :)

And mem, I do not think he will be like "alright, I think you will be a bad mother, I cannot have children with you and thus cannot stay with you." Or do you really think he'll leave you?

@Poshi: The thing is, I have no problem with a dog, I even want one. Or two. Or a whole pack of dogs XD But I also want a cat and he says he won't get any cats because cats are assholes or something. I know he actually will love any pet we get, because he's a hopeless animal lover, but I'm afraid he's serious about the cat -.- Probably we'll get both, but still, I won't know until we get to live just the two of us. (*sings* Just the two of us *throws red confetti rain and turns on a red light*)
Oh, I'm pretty open about everything, maybe too open than I should XD So he knows, and I'm surprised he hadn't ran away from me like in January 2011 (started dating Dec 2010) and I was tipsy and said the L word XD He should've ran then >_> No idea why he didn't...

@Julez: Glad you could talk it out :)

I'm not sure what he'd do, he's hard to read and/or undestand... A walking mystery. And a walking Encyclopedia btw, he knows all kinds of shit xD But yeah, I don't know. He may leave me.
I'm also afraid he may stay with me just because he felt obliged to, or felt pity for me or something.
So generally I have no idea what he'll do, but for me this moron is the one and I'm not giving him up 8u It doesn't seem he will leave me, but as I said, he's not telling me things, getting him to talk about it is a nightmare (he just says we'll see and that's it) and he may be sending me mixed signals, so yay I guess I may have too much hope and faith in him? I don't know? But I don't want any other guy, I want him

Yes I am too :)

Well, this sounds like he is indeed hard to read... What a boyfriend, telling you 'we'll see'. I would be so mad at this

I know what you feel, I am also afraid of staying with sb because he or I feel obliged to... This is not what I want for me.
And so cute to see how sure you are about it :)

I was mad at this, but he's just like that and I cannot change it in any way. The only thing I can change is my attitude So I just wait x.x

Exactly. I don't want it either for me, nor for him, I rather he left me and be happy with someone else... Though I'll probably die of hear break
Lol, yeah, I'm sure, but it would be nice he would be too XD
On Saturday we went shopping (I spent a fortune ) and after we finished he wanted to check out some headphones for himself. And he really liked the really expensive ones, but they were ultra great. So I said "let's take it for installements". And he's like "you're out of your mind or something? ". And for the rest of the day (and even the next day) he couldn't shut up about it. He even said "I know you love me and just want me to have all the best stuff, but you love me without thinking ^^;" And he was laughing at me xD
Makes me hopeful