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Post subject: Re: *Private* Tripping the Light Fantastic Posted: Nov 15th, '17, 04:47 |
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Formiana

Joined: Aug 14th, '14, 17:29 Posts: 559 Hugs: 8149 Mood: Nonplussed
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Oh no. If he's an artificial man-bear, he might not realize he's supposed to only be interested in BBW. Someone should tell him. It might clear up his confusion.
Reading about involuntary mating urges makes all the muscles in my back tense up and my eyes roll backward. It's just biology.
Have you tried subliminal programming? I'm not entirely sure how it works, but I think that if you randomly intersperse the word "obey" in all of your emails (in a small and sneaky font) he will gradually become more pliant.
I think I've given up on the plot being good. It is what it is at this point. This year won't be the year I turn my NaNo into a bestselling novel, is all.
Looking back, I guess she does succeed at some things, but they're all steps in what were supposed to be larger plans that don't work out. Does that count for anything?
Wait, you can just change your pacing? On a whim? How does that work?
I'm very reassured that you're not allowing Namor to speak or have agency. Or is it N'mor?
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Post subject: Re: *Private* Tripping the Light Fantastic Posted: Nov 15th, '17, 05:03 |
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Stroctoperry

Joined: Aug 18th, '14, 04:23 Posts: 669 Hugs: 12457 Mood: Lazy
Website: https://www.fanfiction.net/u/1701656/LordofDorkness
Location: The Land of Sky Blue Waters
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Don't worry! I read another chapter over ramen this evening. She described herself as curvy and was impressed when the man-bear was able to carry her.
I can go for a good involuntary mating urge fic from time to time. When I'm feeling trashy, you know.
Good to know. I will see if gmail accepts 0.5 pt font.
But you can still change it! You shouldn't dislike something you work hard on.
I don't know if that counts for anything. How much of the story is her failing or thinking about how she has failed, versus trying to succeed or succeeding?
I just jump further forward in time after hitting return twice. Boom. Pacing has changed. I started out accounting for nearly every hour of every day, but I've gone to skipping weeks or months at a time.
It would be N'mor if I was much trashier than I am. I actually shuffled Daredevil and the Punisher around so I could use them more, and added Moon Knight as a casual mention. Namor is still available for later.
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Post subject: Re: *Private* Tripping the Light Fantastic Posted: Nov 15th, '17, 21:39 |
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Formiana

Joined: Aug 14th, '14, 17:29 Posts: 559 Hugs: 8149 Mood: Nonplussed
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Thank goodness. I was beginning to worry that she might not be curvy. I don't know what I would have done if it turned out we lived in a world where non-curvy women can romance man-bears.
My very trashy moods go in different directions. Directions like, "Oh no! There's only one bed!"
I don't dislike it. I like many things about this story. I've just... given up on it being structurally sound. It is not going to have a clear narrative arc. Realizing that is kind of freeing, actually.
Months at a time? Is that wise? What happens to the romantic relationship during those months? I am concerned.
I am offended that you consider using N'mor to be trashy. He's a very respectable speedo-clad man who likes to hit on other people's wives. Also, I almost just spelled his name like s'more.
Looks like I'll be stealing your boyfriend from Wisconsin. But by the time you get him he'll have been trapped in a car with a cat for five hours. Prepare for one very allergic man.
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Post subject: Re: *Private* Tripping the Light Fantastic Posted: Nov 15th, '17, 21:49 |
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Stroctoperry

Joined: Aug 18th, '14, 04:23 Posts: 669 Hugs: 12457 Mood: Lazy
Website: https://www.fanfiction.net/u/1701656/LordofDorkness
Location: The Land of Sky Blue Waters
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I am also relieved. Now I can focus on why they don't even care when they get shot at, like the author wanted a dramatic/intrigue element but didn't want it to put a damper on the hot BBW/Werebear action. Or why the jokes are so pathetically bad.
Oh No Only One Bed is a classic. I'm basically a fan of all trashy contrivances.
Well, that's fine, then. My story is also not structurally sound. I would need at least two more drafts to get the plots to actually go together. Right now I keep them in separate scenes. There is no foreshadowing. There is no evidence of writing skill. It's great.
I didn't mean Namor is trashy; I meant that using the stupid name contraction thing would be trashy. There are more than enough names in use already. And hitting on other people's wives is problematic when people will challenge you to duels for that sort of thing.
Thank you for stealing my boyfriend from Wisconsin. Wisconsin is a poop and stole him from me, so it's only fair. He can take pills for the cat.
I'm doing lab work again. It gives me a headache and makes my back hurt. What are you up to, work-wise?
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Post subject: Re: *Private* Tripping the Light Fantastic Posted: Nov 16th, '17, 00:07 |
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Formiana

Joined: Aug 14th, '14, 17:29 Posts: 559 Hugs: 8149 Mood: Nonplussed
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I think that's a common thread in the lower-quality romances. The authors put in plots that would, for any reasonable person, be a distraction from smooches, but the characters just... continue smooching. I've even found some where the 'hero' does horrible, inexcusable things to or in front of the heroine and she... fails to care. Or fails to even spend the time thinking about the event to realize something horrible happened.
I like some trash contrivances and sneer at others. I don't know why. Sex pollen makes me roll my eyes. Why do I think I'm better than sex pollen???
Is there comedy, though? Comedy excuses all technical faults. Reading some of Terry Pratchett's early work, I'm AMAZED by the wonky plot structures he got away with. And fanfiction is even more lenient!
Namor is trashy though. As a person, I mean.
Are you allowed to call the name contraction thing trashy when you're writing a Pern fic? I thought it was more of a necessary weasel.
My work does not give me a headache or make my back hurt. Are you doing it wrong?
I'm still working on the same potential new species I was working on earlier this semester. It's not moving very quickly, what with all my class work and the fact that I was writing a GRFP proposal for the first half of the semester and reading all these papers John wants me to read. But I have a spreadsheet now. A spreadsheet is like progress, right?
Would you be interested in playing a D&D oneshot adventure run by me when I'm home for Thanksgiving? I want to try running something short. Your man would also be invited. And Dad. Maybe.
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Post subject: Re: *Private* Tripping the Light Fantastic Posted: Nov 16th, '17, 00:26 |
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Stroctoperry

Joined: Aug 18th, '14, 04:23 Posts: 669 Hugs: 12457 Mood: Lazy
Website: https://www.fanfiction.net/u/1701656/LordofDorkness
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The man-bear got shot and they didn't even bother to wonder about who was shooting at them. They calmly drove away while the BBW started cracking uninspired butt jokes.
No one is better than sex pollen! It's like aliens made them do it, but without any aliens to worry about. And then comes the cheap drama. Value-brand drama? It's the trashiest.
Not really. I'm controlling myself. There is a minor toilet-themed subplot, though. But I'm hardly even writing like myself! It's not weird stream-of-consciousness at all. It's probably garbage.
What is a necessary weasel. I have no idea. Explain.
Are you saying Pern fics are inherently trashy, so there's no need to single out one convention in particular?
Nothing goes fast while you're taking classes and writing the GRFP. Just wait until the summer.
Yes. Will we need to make characters in advance?
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Post subject: Re: *Private* Tripping the Light Fantastic Posted: Nov 16th, '17, 05:22 |
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Formiana

Joined: Aug 14th, '14, 17:29 Posts: 559 Hugs: 8149 Mood: Nonplussed
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DID YOU KNOW LAURENCE FISHBURNE AND GINA TORRES ARE MARRIED AND JUDGED IRON CHEF AMERICA TOGETHER???
Wow. Dang. Not bothering to think about who shot you is very high-level plot apathy. I'm legitimately impressed that the author thought that was fine.
I like cheap drama. You'd think I would have no problem with sex pollen since it isn't even anyone's fault that drama happens, and I like blameless plots. But no.
Why no comedy? You do the best comedy! The toilets do not surprise me. You have great power in regard to toilets. And I imagine your writing is fine and only seems strange because it is not your usual style.
Necessary weasel: Aspect that is not appealing on its own merits but is necessary to sustain some foundation of the work.
I... may be saying that. I may believe that the original Pern books are a bit trashy.
I haven't decided on the character situation. Will get back to you by this weekend.
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Post subject: Re: *Private* Tripping the Light Fantastic Posted: Nov 16th, '17, 05:44 |
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Stroctoperry

Joined: Aug 18th, '14, 04:23 Posts: 669 Hugs: 12457 Mood: Lazy
Website: https://www.fanfiction.net/u/1701656/LordofDorkness
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I can't recognize Gina Torres by name, so no, I didn't know that. I would not want to be judged by Larry Fishburne. She would be fine.
It's like she wrote a bunch of scenes and stuck them together, but had no interest in writing transitions. Or forgot. A bunch of things don't make sense. It's stupid.
What about it do you not like? Do you have a problem with aliens made them do it?
I don't know why no comedy. I wasn't feeling it. But now that's all I want to do. It makes me feel like a hack who can't do serious things.
What's wrong with weasels? Nothing. Women love weasels. The only necessary part of a Pern fic is dragons.
Who's trashy? You're trashy. Go home. Did you even read them?
Decide. Now.
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Post subject: Re: *Private* Tripping the Light Fantastic Posted: Nov 16th, '17, 22:31 |
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Formiana

Joined: Aug 14th, '14, 17:29 Posts: 559 Hugs: 8149 Mood: Nonplussed
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Gina Torres = Zoe from Firefly.
I was being so judgmental about this bad author, bu then I realized that in the latest scene of my NaNo I had forgotten to put in a very important conversation where the MC asks where the giant beetle that just attacked her came from.
I don't like aliens made them do it, either. I've come to realize that I hate drama that comes from escalating physicality prematurely, and love drama that comes from characters put in situations that lend themselves to physicality but no physical intimacy occurring. So sex pollen = bad, having to share a bed = good.
If you want to make the story funny now, you should definitely do that, because you should enjoy writing your story. But your skills at comedy can cross over to non-comedy. You are the best at friendly banter, and friendly banter can happen in non-comedic situations. But more importantly, every writer ever has acknowledged that comedy is much harder to write than serious, and you are good at comedy, so you should be proud. I bet your serious writing is just fine, not that you ever let me read it. Let me read it and I will tell you it is good.
I read the first one. There was definitely a trashy vibe. Not in a bad way. Trash is good.
Now I'm kind of thinking that with the adventure I have in mind, it would be more appropriate to make the characters ahead of time with limitations given by me, or--gasp!--not use D&D as the system. I don't know. Don't ask me.
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Post subject: Re: *Private* Tripping the Light Fantastic Posted: Nov 16th, '17, 22:57 |
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Stroctoperry

Joined: Aug 18th, '14, 04:23 Posts: 669 Hugs: 12457 Mood: Lazy
Website: https://www.fanfiction.net/u/1701656/LordofDorkness
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I am also capable of using the Google.
I am totally unconcerned about the giant beetle. Accept at face value.
I think I skipped an entire scene, now. Something sounds like it happened already but I never wrote it.
I will take all of the bad drama. It won't bother you anymore. Send it to me.
Banter comes at the price of never touching a single dialogue tag. I hate writing them, for no reason. It's not like I think they disrupt the flow of the writing - I don't mind reading them. But I hate how they look when I'm typing, so I don't type them.
It's not, I assure you. And no, you can't read it.
The first one, as in the first trilogy? Or the first book of the first trilogy? Did you read the White Dragon?
Traveler! Hellboy! Fate! Red Dwarf! Combine them all!
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