Is that what gives you the ability to find good fics on AO3? That's truly unexpected. Do you put your nose to your screen and then scroll until you smell the dill that signals a good one?
I would say that a morally ambiguous dog is one who would not respond to "Who's a good boy?" with "Me! It's me!" Such dogs exist, I'm sure.

I just wanted to bask in the fandom for a little while. Is that so wrong? How was I to know that 100% of the posts would be about recently-shown episodes? ...In hindsight, I think I'm a fool.
Sorry. I'm a compulsive information-sharer. In my defense, it's nothing you wouldn't have found out from accidentally seeing an ad for it somewhere, if you were ever in a position to see an ad for it anywhere.
Alan Tudyk is in it? I don't think I saw him on tumblr. Maybe he dies immediately. (Did you know that Alan Tudyk has been a voice actor in like 100 Disney movies? I didn't know that.)

Nope. January 23, according to Amazon. I'll be long gone. But you could send it to me by mail when you're done with it? Or... for my birthday?

Yeah. That's the real reason why you take forever to find good fics. Can't smell them.
No. Not a single dog would ever say that. For shame.

It wasn't really a spoiler. I had been seeing ads for the second season before I saw the first season. It's the reason I watched the first season.
I don't know. He featured prominently in the ads for the second season that I saw. Spoiler alert. I sort of knew he did a lot of voice acting, since I've noticed him in things.

Or both, because we can finish it in a single day and then ship it to you.

Have you heard of Eisbrecher? They're like Rammstein with a power metal-level gimmick. The gimmick is ice and ships. Did you guess? From the name? Yeah.

https://youtu.be/w45Qi7Nki54

Also, have you heard of Blind Guardian? They don't usually stand out for me, but this song is a very epic example of Epic Rocking:

https://youtu.be/8CIfudW67zs

More proof mounts for this hypothesis by the moment. I gave in and picked a Voyager fanfic that looked like it might be good, and it turned out to be both poorly-written and unsatisfying. I don't know why I read all 10,000 words of it. I wish I could smell the dill.
There's an incredible number of Voyager/Stargate crossovers dating to the early-mid 2000s. I wonder how directly overlapping the two fandoms were.

Where did you see ads for it? I don't think I knew the series existed before I saw it sitting on our living room table.
He probably doesn't die immediately, then. Apparently he's voice acted in both Frozen and Moana, and everything else that Disney has made money on recently. He's trapped in their capitalist machinery now.

And once again I will be the last to see it. Is that fair? No, I say, not fair.

Nope. Never heard of them. They sound... club-ier than Rammstein, if that makes any sense? And at least this song is a little low-energy for my taste. And I didn't get any ice or ships vibe from it, so bad form there, Eisbrecher. Just a weird mishmash of German and English that didn't make much sense in either language.

No, haven't heard of them, either, but I like this song pretty well. I wish they had gone in less of an "evocative imagery" direction with their lyrics and more of a "clearly communicating our story" direction.

That's a lot of unsatisfying words to read. How many words in were you when you realized it was bad? I am currently a few chapters into a 45-chapter monster, and it's already broken one of my Hannibal fic rules but I don't even care anymore (#Hannibal is Not a Cannibal). Then again, his manners were terrible in front of a very austere aunt, so he might as well be killing people and eating them.
All of the Star* fandoms can coexist peacefully. This is the future Gene Roddenberry was hoping for.

Cable. I was in a situation where Cable was available, and it showed up during every commercial break.
I definitely heard him in Frozen. Must be terrible to have a steady source of income.

Hahaha! Life isn't fair.

That's just one song. A lot of their other stuff is more intense and ice/ship themed. They have a song called Eisbrecher, for example. Actually, Fanatica is largely out of character for them. I just like it.
Ooh, now try ASP! If you like lyrics that make some semblance of sense, Wer Sonst is really good. It's also just really good. Make sure you're listening on speakers that don't crush the middle range - there's a lot of synth going on in there. Also probably not Nazis? I hate that I have to check Nazi status of bands I like.

You listened to the lyrics? I couldn't even hear them very well. I just love the layering that happens a few times between sections, like around 4:50. I am powerless in the face of extreme overdubbing. Could you tell it was only one guy doing all of the vocals? His voice isn't my favorite, which is one reason I'm not a huge fan of Blind Guardian, but his production is insane. And they're a classic example of Heavy Mithril, but not quite as pretentious as Luca Turilli/'s/Rhapsody/of Fire.

I was less than 2000 words in when I was forced to conclude that the writing was not just idiosyncratic and short on dialogue tags, it was bad. The 8000 words after that were spent hoping that something satisfying would happen. It didn't.
Is this an AU of some sort? Is it a regency AU? If #Hannibal is Not a Cannibal, you may as well be reading any fandom with an Edgy White Male Lead, right?
I think that despite being the most militarily-inclined of the three Star*, Stargate as a fandom is just too easy-going not to get along with others. It is a friendly fandom. I see it crossed over a lot in general.

I have cable all the time and have never seen it! All the cable channels I watch only advertise their own shows (and the history channel, for some reason). Did you have access to BBC America somehow?

Why would you introduce me with a nonindicative song? You think I'm going to do my own work to find the rest of their stuff? Ridiculous.
Wer Sonst is really good! My German is not good enough to know what they're talking about (mostly), and the first video that comes up doesn't have a translation, unfortunately. But, would listen again. I preferred the clean vocals, but I didn't mind the... not clean? What's the word? Kind of shouty and growly but not really? Vocals.

Of course I listened to the lyrics! Is English! They were definitely talking about the Iliad sometimes, and other times were just offering up a tone poem about moonlight and determination and stuff. The layering is indeed good, and I especially liked the Na Na Na Na bit near the end. I can appreciate that they were going for a ballad style with forward momentum instead of a more typical song structure, but I found myself wishing for some recurring musical elements to hold the piece together, since their lyrics weren't strong enough to do so.
You say pretentious, I say well-developed. Rambling about Troy in between praising a woman for being shinier than the moon doesn't compare well to Luca Turilli/'s/Rhapsody/of Fire's lyrical sophistication and commitment to theme.

That is never a wise thing to hope.
Yeah, Regency AU. I definitely might as well be reading any Edgy White Male Lead fandom, but I was actively looking for a certain type of trash and I found it. There was a swell of music and a burst of golden light and a strong scent of dill. And the Slow Burn is so slow. It's great.
Yeah, it's a strong crossover fandom. I think it comes with the territory when the canon has you visiting other worlds on the regular. And when you know you're the least popular of the Star* properties.

I think it was Food Network in a hotel. It was right before season 2 started airing.

Because I like that song. It is a very attractive song.
I know! I looked up the lyrics because my German is non-existent. I don't really know what that type of vocal is called. It's just a little harsh, not really a growl, so I suspect it's just considered a gravelly type of clean vocal (we're comparing to subhuman grunting in some types of metal, after all).

Just because it's English doesn't mean the lyrics are clear enough to understand! See parenthetical aside, above. Of course they were going for a ballad style; their fans call them the bards. And I heard several repeated elements, so I'm not sure what else you want.
We've had this conversation before. You know I like DragonForce. And I say pretentious because I have to add three slashes to a band name just encompass the entirety of Luca Turilli's musical vision concerning a magical land of dragons and elves. See: http://www.metalstorm.net/pub/fun_comments.php?fun_id=6
If you want commitment to theme, listen to Manowar. They've been hammering the same theme for decades.

I'm very happy that you found the trash of your dreams, then. I never seem to meet my dream trash. Occasionally, I'll find a trash I didn't even know I wanted, but never the trash I fervently wish to find.

Wow, Food Network. I didn't know you had it in you. Impressed, I am.

Maybe there should be a numerical scale of harshness, and this would be, like, a 1. Like the Moh's scale but just for vocals. I'm starting to think that my only real criterion for whether I like a given genre of metal or not is whether or not the vocals are clean, because I live for clean (male) vocals only.

People had helpfully posted the lyrics all over that youtube page, though. You're right, there was at least one passage that repeated near the end. That was nice. Not enough to carry through the whole 14 minutes, though.
Reading that list, I can understand why you're Rather Metal Yourself. Are metal fans all pleasant people? They seem like all pleasant people. Luca Turilli/'s/Rhapsody/of Fire broke one of the rules, though. They/he didn't make a side project for their science fiction foray.

Had to read a peer review of a proposal for class, and one of the reviewers referred to the proposal's "likely hood of success". Man, I wish I had a likely hood of success. I would wear that thing everywhere.

It's like finding a perfectly pristine candy bar on the ground. Or on a bike rack. Wrapper intact, no surface dirt or squashing. Delicious and absolutely free.

Vocals are included in the Moh's Scale. Harsh vocals are practically required to get you over a 7. I also am driven entirely by (deep) clean (male) vocals, so I understand your feelings.

YMMV on Epic Rocking examples, I think. It's hard to hold everyone's attention for over 10 minutes, no matter what you do.
I am Rather Metal Myself, aren't I? Mostly, and even more so for power metal because it is inherently silly. There are always the juvenile types who like to hate on things for being mainstream (DragonForce), or for having production value and not being recorded on crappy tapes on purpose, or for not being technical enough (prog fans love this one), or for being too technical; and some of the edgier subgenres have some Nazi problems or are plagued by actually insane people who murder each other, but they (at least the insane murderers) tend to be really niche to begin with, since they tend to fall under the categories of hating mainstream success and production values and technical skill.
He has enough projects. He isn't allowed to have anymore. He's reached his lifetime project limit.

Sounds like a fun D&D item. I'll ask Dad to have his wizard create one for me.

Does the pristine candy also smell like dill?

The fact that harsh vocals don't really come into play until the upper end of the scale tells me that the scale is not sensitive enough to be useful when the only trait you want to distinguish is vocal cleanliness.
I don't demand that my male vocals be deep. I didn't realize you did? Zynic is not deep.

Yeah, I think my attention span for any song is probably about 8 minutes max. I even feel that way about show tunes that basically do a 180 in the middle.
Are there other people like you, who, instead of being Metal, are Rather Metal Myself? I don't even meet Metal people, so I have no idea.
Well, that power metal list was talking about stabbing Black Metal fans who looked too much like trolls while wandering through the woods. So there's that genre's, um, seedy underbelly.
I'm worried that I don't know enough Nazi symbols to detect if I accidentally find a Nazi band.

Always. Delicious.

Fine, make your vocal Moh's scale. Let me know how it goes.
It's in parentheses because it's only preferred, not a requirement. I don't like HammerFall very much because the vocals are particularly high. If I'm comparing two groups, and one singer is deeper, I probably like them more. Alternatively, if they tend to stay in the lower part of their range, whatever their range is, I'll like them more. At least for straight singing - if they sound like Steve Perry, the rules don't apply.

Wow. You can lose patience with show tunes? I am shocked. I'm also shocked that a show tune would go on for more than 8 minutes.
I don't know. There are some other grad students who like various types of metal, but I think they might just be Metal. Derek has long hair and a beard and likes to go on about saunas (sa-u-nas) due to his undying love for Scandinavia.
I can never remember if it's black metal or death metal that's the unpleasant one, so I always end up looking it up. Black metal is the one with the murders and the Nazis. I'm not gonna say go for proactive stabbing if you meet one alone in the woods, though.
I'd like to think that generally pleasant people who don't take themselves too seriously are not Nazis/fascists. That's one reason why I'm pretty comfortable with Sabaton, even though I've seen some people in forums questioning their association with Swedish nationalism (nationalism is heavily frowned upon in Sweden).