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Re: Casual conversation

Posted: Apr 14th, '22, 19:30
by Akili Li
Oh no, I definitely have those and definitely remember them.

I'm comparing Water-with-Chip-Chip
to
Light-with-firefly-jar
and
Dark-with-Fortune-Teller-Orb

I don't even try for the others because why waste the functional items when I spent all those food points to get them?

Re: Casual conversation

Posted: Apr 14th, '22, 19:38
by Amura
Oh, there are others for other elements?
Back in the day it was only the fountain one, and I never checked again :mcheh:

Re: Casual conversation

Posted: Apr 14th, '22, 19:41
by Akili Li
Yes, she's been releasing them (quite slowly, but they still are coming).

There are now 3.

Water has the ChipChip Fountain.
Light has the Firefly Jar (Lightning Bug Jar?)
Dark has the Fortune Teller Dark Orb.

I'm really curious what she'll do for Air, Fire, and Earth.

Re: Casual conversation

Posted: Apr 14th, '22, 19:44
by Amura
Oh, that's interesting.
If I ever decide to invest in earning more FPs from digging, I'll have them in mind.

Re: Casual conversation

Posted: Apr 14th, '22, 20:13
by Akili Li
Yep, yep.

When there's a knuffel I know I'm going to keep and use for digging, I do a lot of that trick of raise-it-to-level-30-and-drop-and-readopt it.
If I do it 5 times, it pays for an apple-and-cupcake set, and all 3 of the digging items.

Re: Casual conversation

Posted: Apr 14th, '22, 20:25
by Amura
You really have a system there.

Which reminds me I should add a section in my newbies guide about how to earn money with knuffels...

Re: Casual conversation

Posted: Apr 14th, '22, 20:38
by Akili Li
ha ha ha, yes!
Turn the Newbie Guide into the Ultimate KofK Guide For All!


I still haven't sat down and actually graphed out which is the best level to do the readopt thing at, in terms of gold-gained-per-xp.

Someday.

Re: Casual conversation

Posted: Apr 14th, '22, 21:00
by Amura
I did a plain spreadsheet, considering only the money you earn for sure (from leveling up plus from giving up). According to which:
- if you are just planning to readopt, level 20 is the optimal one
- if you want to readopt and pay off a cupcake, level 30 is the optimal one
- if you want to readopt and pay off a cupcake and an apple, it would go up to level 60


But maybe that's too much info for a Newbie Guide xD

Re: Casual conversation

Posted: Apr 14th, '22, 23:15
by Akili Li
Did you remember to factor in the cost of readoption when you were graphing it out?

Re: Casual conversation

Posted: Apr 15th, '22, 08:21
by Amura
Yes, of course.
Knuffel only version. LEVEL 20:
Profit: 4000
Readoption price: 1900.
Benefit: 2100
Benefit per XP: 1,058

Knuffel + cupcake version. LEVEL 30:
Profit: 6000
Readoption price: 1900.
Cupcake price: 1700
Benefit: 2400
Benefit per XP: 0,536

Knuffel + cupcake + apple version. LEVEL 60:
Profit: 12000
Readoption price: 1900.
Cupcake price: 1700
Apple price: 1400
Benefit: 7000
Benefit per XP: 0,389
In my opinion, the best choice is not the one which brings a better benefit (which is, obviously, level 100) but higher benefit per XP.
I usually don't buy neither cupcake nor apple, but I stick to giving them up between level 20 and 30.

I can show you my spreadsheet if you want.