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Are you gonna celebrate Halloween?
Of course, wouldn't miss that!  32%  [ 8 ]
No and I'm sad ;_;  12%  [ 3 ]
No and I hate it  4%  [ 1 ]
I'm just here for the candies  24%  [ 6 ]
I'm just here to scare the neighborhood kids  28%  [ 7 ]
Total votes : 25
 Post subject: Re: ~Nox's lair~
Posted: Dec 19th, '21, 22:09    
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Yup 8u
Do you know the Columbine High School massacre?
There's fan pages of the two killers and people fangirling over them and all that shit.
Makes me want to puke.
Lock these blatantly crazy people up plz \8u/

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 Post subject: Re: ~Nox's lair~
Posted: Dec 19th, '21, 22:36    
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Incredible.

We don't have that kind of thing with killers here.
While some crimes become wildly popular, and you get to read many news about them, criminals do get a lot of bad press and - as far as I know - no fangirls at all.

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 Post subject: Re: ~Nox's lair~
Posted: Dec 20th, '21, 02:43    
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That's the thing - there will always be fans of killers.
There will always be someone that supports them.
You might not hear about it all that often but it is a thing u8

I really love true crime and learning about serial killers and studying Jane and John Doe causes.
Never would I support or be a fan of a killer.
Except in fiction. Because no one was hurt when it's in fiction.

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 Post subject: Re: ~Nox's lair~
Posted: Dec 20th, '21, 17:02    
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Fiction is fiction.
It's something completely different.

I like interesting characters, with a certain level of complexity.
I never liked "bad guys" in movies, cause more often than not they were too plain.
Anime "bad guys" are completely different, they often have a very interesting backstory - they are not evil just for the sake of being evil.

So for me it's not about good/bad but about plain/developed.
Many "good guys" are also too plain to grab my interest at all .

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 Post subject: Re: ~Nox's lair~
Posted: Dec 21st, '21, 02:44    
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It just depends for me. Some bad guys are likable and some aren't.
Some honestly irritate me ._.
Like this one bad guy in this horror movie series.
Like you're supposed to hate him because he's bad but it's a whole other level.
I actually HATE the character.
Not love to hate just pure hate Bu

Yeah, a lot of main protagonists are generic and similar.
Sometimes I like that, though.
People act like tropes are bad but they aren't always.
I like a lot of tropes.

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 Post subject: Re: ~Nox's lair~
Posted: Dec 21st, '21, 14:32    
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I don't mind tropes as part of a story. Tropes themselves are not always bad.
But usually those characters are so obvious that they are uninteresting for me.

There is one trope I do heartily dislike though: the Mary-Sue type.

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 Post subject: Re: ~Nox's lair~
Posted: Dec 21st, '21, 21:43    
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I think it's impossible to make something totally original.
There's always someone that's thought of it and used it before.
I also don't like when people complain something is too similar to something else and that makes it bad.
It doesn't.

Yeah, a lot of people hate that. I don't think I've made many of those. I did have an OC when I was in school and wrote her into every story. That was a Mary Sue xD

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 Post subject: Re: ~Nox's lair~
Posted: Dec 21st, '21, 23:27    
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Mary-Sues make stories very very boring.
And you can find them in any book, even books by very experienced authors.


You know what?
In my high school library there is a manga... of Pride and Prejudice!
I was so shocked.
I mean, I'm not surprised it exists, I'm surprised that it's popular enough to be in a library with less than 100 volumes of manga.

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 Post subject: Re: ~Nox's lair~
Posted: Dec 22nd, '21, 02:51    
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Yeah, I see why people get annoyed by them xD
My character was like...the main character that everyone wanted.
There's a thin line sometimes between being a Mary Sue and just being a desirable person.
Also, people genuinely can be pure and innocent.
People like that are often called perfect or a saint in a condescending way.
Being able to relate to a character wins them points with not being a Mary Sue.
There's some characters I could relate too that were called terrible, boring characters.
I don't know who you think you are but \8u/

>xD
Did you ever check it out?
I won't read a book but I'll read manga xD
I also learn history and stuff through anime/manga/games ._.
Stuff I wouldn't have learned otherwise.

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 Post subject: Re: ~Nox's lair~
Posted: Dec 26th, '21, 23:10    
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A character can be nice but still not be a Mary Sue.
Nice characters often have flaws such as being too naive, or unable to face those who want to harm them, or even unable to believe someone is trying to harm them.

The problem (for me) with Mary Sues is not that they are "perfect", the boredom arises when such a character is the center of the story.
You may have a side-character who is a Mary Sue and the story be excellent.
But if the nice young girl who never really noticed she was pretty and suddenly receives a magical power fixes every issue in sight without making any effort at all... well, that's a plain boring story.



I did not check it out, we were cataloging and really did not have the time.
But I was quite surprised.

That's a book I love, I would not mind reading the manga. I'll pick it up whenever I have the time.

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