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 Post subject: Re: Feature Requests - Post your ideas here!
Posted: Nov 3rd, '13, 23:18    


Amura

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Other possible prices are, maybe, Troth Tokens? Not the items, but the tokens themselves.
What do you think?
When people need them for some reason, such as an expensive limited item as Ehlenia was last month, they could get some aditional ones this way.
Not sure, just throwing the idea.

And definetely a "try again for free" kind of thing.

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 Post subject: Re: Feature Requests - Post your ideas here!
Posted: Nov 3rd, '13, 23:20    


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i miss my brother i think i shall bring him back
i like the idea of troth tokens as prizes *nods*
i tend to run out. xD
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 Post subject: Re: Feature Requests - Post your ideas here!
Posted: Nov 4th, '13, 06:47    


SillyChu

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I would find myself appreciating a troth token prize, no matter how small.

I always find myself accidentally missing a day and having not enough for the monthly things..

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 Post subject: Re: Feature Requests - Post your ideas here!
Posted: Nov 4th, '13, 10:57    


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The problem with giving out anything is (apart from the obvious - Things like Items have to be made) finding a balance.

Take Troth Tokens for example. I know there are a few people who have trouble getting enough Tokens for the monthly items and would gladly get more Tokens. But the reason why we have the monthly limited Troth Token items to begin with is because we had multiple people complain to us that they had tons and tons of Troth Tokens and did not know what to do with them.
And I just checked how the current Troth Token situation is and there are lots of people who just barely have 10 or 20 Troth Tokens and probably have trouble keeping up with the limited items, but at the same time we have lots of people who have several hundreds of them. And of course a lot of people who have a number inbetween. So, from what I can tell, the system works like it should. Those who come online everyday and think about collecting them get rewarded and there are a lot of people like this. These who don't think about getting them daily, don't get the reward.
I see a lot of people who have more Tokens than they can ever spend buy multiple limited Troth Token items and sell them for food in the market. For those who can't manage to collect their tokens daily, this is still a good option to get the items they want. If we started giving out more tokens or made it easier, we basically downgrade the reward for those who actually do collect them daily and have lots of them. They would have tons of them, would not even see the need to collect them anymore , the Tokens would lose value.

It is always very tricky to find a balance between making something too easy or too hard. Both too hard and too easy causes problems (Too hard - Most people cannot get the items they want, frustrating. Too easy - Tokens pile up and become worthless). As said, the limited items were introduced to bring some balance to the system as people had way more tokens than they could spend. Giving out more Tokens/giving them out somewhere else, would just ruin the balance again and then we would have to think of yet more ways people could spend their Tokens on to restore the balance and then it would all turn into a vicious circle.

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 Post subject: Re: Feature Requests - Post your ideas here!
Posted: Nov 4th, '13, 12:54    


VampMiyu

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Well I honestly think the Troth System is working perfectly.
People get the Troth Tokens they deserve by logging as many days as they do.
I haven't been on in a long time and even before I didn't log in everyday, so I don't have many troth montly items, but as Firn said there are LOADS of people who sell them or trade them...

It's true that if troth tokens were given out as an alternative prize for something, it takes away from those who are awarded for being here every day...

I love the idea of a slot machine, and agree the day care coupons would be a nice posible prize.I think the machine should give out commons from all the stores and maybe feeding coupons. But no exclusive or specificly obtainable items such as FCs (and MTs, TTs and GFTQs), Digging, Knuffle or Troth items.

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 Post subject: Re: Feature Requests - Post your ideas here!
Posted: Nov 5th, '13, 09:50    


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I would only want the commons from the stores if we had an option to sell them back to the shop.

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 Post subject: Re: Feature Requests - Post your ideas here!
Posted: Nov 5th, '13, 09:55    


Amura

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Commons would not encourage me to play anyway.
Getting a random item from shops, one I probably won't want, for a fraction of the cost... when I could buy the one I want just for a little more?
It's not very applealing to be honest.

I don't know if coupons could be done, because it's also some kind of incentive for posting (just as tokens are an incentive for being around daily) but if it were fine then I think it would be the neatest prize.

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 Post subject: Re: Feature Requests - Post your ideas here!
Posted: Nov 5th, '13, 12:16    


VampMiyu

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well if you see it that way, FPs are an incentive for posting ._.

Otherwise it could just be you're tipical money slot machine, just with FPs, but I don't don't see what other items could be given out by own without Firn having to draw new unic items for it, or giving some other item that would be conceived as unfair or uninteresting or unrelated or...

There are some pretty awesome and expensive commons, such as the wigs in Lunatic Fringe, or most items in that shop and Rikashitsu's. So I don't see that it could be such a lame prize, if you pay say 50 fps and get an item worth 500fps in a shop, you can always just resell it and you're bound to get a profit.

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 Post subject: Re: Feature Requests - Post your ideas here!
Posted: Nov 5th, '13, 17:04    


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If that's the case I'd rather win Ciela Hair instead of shop items. :P They're so rare for a WK item! But then again they're a WK item so I don't think getting it as a game prize would be such a good idea.

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 Post subject: Re: Feature Requests - Post your ideas here!
Posted: Nov 5th, '13, 18:42    


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Nellie wrote:They're so rare for a WK item!
I think they might appear rare because they are popular, so less people sell theirs. The possibility to get them is the same for every WK item, so they are not rarer in the sense that there would be less of them.



I would like to keep Wild Knuffel items Wild Knuffel exclusive though.

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