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 Post subject: Re: 「sotano 」 - talk tourabu to me
Posted: Jun 29th, '15, 00:59    


Lacrimosa

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Oh man, I have the exact same feelings about stickers. xD I would totally collect them but then I never use them because I want to save it for something special--and yeah. XD

Ahh I see. I'm so sorry they've turned you down. >.< I had the exact same problem when I was applying to places, kept getting turned down due to lack of experience. How am I to get any experience if I don't get hired anywhere. >8U I hope you can find something, though. :c Maybe even if it's just temporary.

That sounds incredibly stressful, I am so sorry! >.< Being in that sort of tense environment can really wear you down, too. I don't get why they treat you so differently. :/ Applying to a bunch of jobs is a lot of work, too...

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 Post subject: Re: 「sotano 」 - talk tourabu to me
Posted: Jun 29th, '15, 02:12    


VEE

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well, shes the angel child. i was the wild child and always dated guys in middle and high school, and snuck out, and didnt listen to my parents and was the rebel and stuff ya know. so i think i sort of helped her decide to be the good one, she didnt want to get in trouble like i did and i guess wanted to win my parents over, and its not like they give her more or love her more or anything, they have always been good about being fair to us. its just that she drives, and has had a job and saves her money, and i.. have done things not legal :P and like to hang out with my friends, and she doesnt really have many friends or go out with them at all, shes the business major and graduated in three years with a 4.07 so shes seen as responsible. and of course i got good grades, came out with a 3.42 but that pales in comparison. and they know i could have worked harder, and i know that too, but i place other things in importance, like how i feel. and also she doesnt have depression, and they truly dont understand how that affects me and my life and how its freaking amazing that i have done all i have with it. they think im too emotional, and my sister very much thinks like them, so of course they would see her as the responsible one. her and my dad are just..crazy about money and saving money and it. it makes me sad sometimes, that i am willing to buy lunch for my sister if we are out, and i am actually in debt to my dad, while she has 16k in her bank account and would never buy me lunch or anything.

we have different things that are important to us. they have never understood how important ariel or my other friends are to me. i guess they dont see as much value in connecting to someone, i dont know. my sister got crazy mad at me when we were in florida, because we were planning to all watch a movie together, but right before ariel called me and was very upset and having lots of problems with her boyfriend, and i ended up calmin her down and talking to her for two hours so i missed it all, and she was so pissed at me and was yelling and all this stuff about how i disappointed dad and i was supposed to do this with the family, when i was trying to explain how much ariel actually needed me and nobody else would be able to talk to her like i can but she just wouldnt hear it. :/ and my parents actually said it was fine when i asked them about it, but yeah.

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 Post subject: Re: 「sotano 」 - talk tourabu to me
Posted: Jun 29th, '15, 03:27    


Lacrimosa

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I see.. you two are pretty different it sounds like, I think it's awful to try and compare. And depression definitely makes a difference--I know it has affected my life a ton and how I've functioned, to things I've done or haven't done. I can't speak for illegal activity, but uh, shit happens. XD And my mom says thats often how it is, the people with all the money will pinch their pennies, and those who are just barely making don't mind spending for something special. And for what it's worth, considering all you go through and have to deal with, I think what you have accomplished and done for yourself is amazing! You have done so much more than me, too, and I'm pretty sure you're younger than I am. XD

I can totally understand where you're coming from, and I'm really sorry your parents can't see it that way. >.< Often times people don't get how depression works. I think you were in the right there for sure, she needed you and I think it's really awesome that you decided to be there for her and made it the priority. I'm sorry your sister took it so badly though, that's harsh and it hurts.

I've been typing this in between calls and tasks at work, so I apologize if any of my thoughts in this post seem scattered!

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 Post subject: Re: 「sotano 」 - talk tourabu to me
Posted: Jun 29th, '15, 04:16    


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asdf. I have the exact same problem with stickers... I have an ungodly sticker collection because I've had this problem since I was in elementary school, so I saved all the stickers they'd give you for behaving. :I;;

I'm starting to put them on cards and letters tho. xD

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 Post subject: Re: 「sotano 」 - talk tourabu to me
Posted: Jun 29th, '15, 04:46    


VEE

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WE ALL HAVE THE SAME STICKER PROBLEM XDD

thank you for your kind words laci. :3 I am twenty two. :P its not that old but im often friends with younger people so sometimes i feel old. and my last partner and my current one are both about three and a half years younger than me haha. though before that my partner was four years older soo ive just been everywhere.

you dont ever have to apologize for that! you must work late, i know we are in the same timezone. :P do you prefer working late? I think that I would. but only because im so bad at sleeping...

i only dont go into detail because i know its in the rules to not discuss illegal things you have done, and i dont want to get into trouble since this is basically my internet home. but ill just say i never harmed another person and would never, and i dont consider most of what i have done bad. my morals are very simple: I do not believe it is right to harm other living beings. regardless of what others consider right or wrong, or the law.

yeah... they really dont understand, and they say that i dont understand the world. but they are also well off white people who are very privileged and dont want to admit it. :P we just had an argument last night about racism, it was awful. and i always tell them, okay i dont want to argue about this and they are like, yeah because its not your opinion and its like no im just tired of this going nowhere and you people thinking i dont know about the world when i really, really do. they say that I am the one that wont listen when its not my opinion, when it is really THEM doing that. xD

but they could never really get the depression stuff, not even if they tried, i make even small comments about things and they cant comprehend they want to know WHY and its like guys its because mah brain chemistry is wonky thats it theres no logical reason okay but they just cant accept that? and they could never think that it would be difficult to get out of bed, to do anything, they think i have such awful hygiene because im gross and maybe partially its that lol but mostly i just dont have the will, or motivation to do even these simple things but they would never ever get that. and i cant really blame them, im not sure if i would be able to understand depression if i didnt have it.. i mean, i cant even understand parts of others depression, mine has never stemmed from self hatred or a lack of self esteem. i dont think im great, (tho i do think im attractive lol) but i dont think im awful either. ive done some things i dont think are great and i have broken too many hearts. v.v but i dont hate myself ya know, and i know people with that kind of depression and i . i have no advice or any experience with that. and i can imagine, doing everyday things that come so easy to people they dont even think about them, i can see how they could never imagine those things being difficult. even though i have always struggled with wanting to exist and wanting to be alive, i know that many people desire immortality, so it makes sense to me that people would not be able to understand the desire to not live, even though i feel like thats natural. xD

man i just rambled forever i dont even know. :P but yeah if a friend is in need, i will drop everything and always be there for them. but especially ariel, because we are soulmates ahaha and she says that im the only one that usually makes her feel better. xP

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 Post subject: Re: 「sotano 」 - talk tourabu to me
Posted: Jun 29th, '15, 05:29    


Lacrimosa

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STICKERS MAN
SO DIFFICULT
Glad one of us is starting to make use of them tho lol


Haha, well I'm turning 24 this year so I guess we're actually around the same age. xD I dropped out of high school in between 10th to 11th grade, with great difficulty finishing 9th and 10th.. mostly because of my depression. I only just finally got my GED last year (after working to pay for it myself) then managed to get a temporary holiday job on my birthday. They kept me on after the holidays, and now I'm even going to be full-time. o: I think to a lot of people these things are late coming, or not very much, but I know for who I am this has been a lot that I've accomplished.
So basically.. I think it's really fucking amazing that you not only went through school but college as well, and now you're looking for an apartment with friends and a job to boot. I know it's been rough but I think you've accomplished a LOT and are super amazing. XD

Ahh, I kind of do actually. Day shifts can be a little crazier, with nonstop calls, and I kinda wind up exhausted. Night shifts can be a little calmer, and I tend to be more of a night person anyway so I have more energy. I like both and work both, though, but tonight yeah I had a closing shift and got out at about 10:20 or so. o; and I sleep way too much LOL

ah yeah no worries there. I sincerely doubt you've really done anything to be ashamed of. xD

sigh. :| my dad and stepmom are very much like that. and I can't handle that sort of conversation either. when people are so blatantly and awfully wrong but they can't even for a second think that they might be. Dx it ends up disgusting and depressing me. and you're right it's not worthwhile even trying when one side is completely unwilling to see things differently.

yeah I definitely know what you mean. I think maybe the only thing I've found close to an accurate representation of how I felt was http://hyperboleandahalf.blogspot.com/2 ... t-two.html .. I ended up crying while reading that. xD and you know that might be exactly it, maybe you can't understand it if you don't experience it. but I'd like to think that people can at least can an idea of what you're going through if they try. I still struggle with motivation and will daily, I still struggle doing things I used to love. xD and like you I struggled with wanting to exist and be alive, for so long I felt like the best thing that could happen were if I could just disappear. do you know Valkyrie Profile? I would say I wish I could just go to the Weeping Lily Meadow and forget everything. XP

psssh no worries man you are more than welcome to "ramble" :D and I'm really glad you two have eachother, it's support like that that keeps people going. I don't know what I would do without the support of wonderful friends. xD

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 Post subject: Re: 「sotano 」 - talk tourabu to me
Posted: Jun 29th, '15, 11:32    


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*sticks stickers all over you three* 'course you have somewhere to put 'em :U
gotta be creative and unafraid! >D

@vee: you know, you could be the most chill person on the planet and even then... it's okay to be angry sometimes. you don't have to be ashamed or whatever it is that you're feeling about it.
sometimes
you just need to be angry about some things
your family obviously puts you under a lot of pressure. it seems you guys have a lot of problems with communication due to your clashing value systems, so of course you guys are going to clash.
so really
let yourself have that.
you can be angry at them.

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 Post subject: Re: 「sotano 」 - talk tourabu to me
Posted: Jun 29th, '15, 18:07    


VEE

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laci, i read that very long ago and had a similar reaction. i felt it was such a good description of depression... and mine has changed through the years, but i have felt basically all of the things she discusses in that comic. this really sticks out to me "I have spent the vast majority of my life actively attempting to survive." and also when she talks about trying to casually talk to people about not wanting to exist. (x because it is something i feel all the time but i have never actually attempted anything to make that possible, even though sometimes i want to, it feels casual to me because its just another of my feelings. but people dont understand, and instead get upset and/or try to give me reasons to live -- like no. no. shhhh ur not helpful. this is actually one of the key reasons ariel and i became so close. i was freaking SICK of people thinking it was a problem that i felt that way, like i needed to fix that when i knew that i couldnt, i could only deal with it. and ariel was like. yeah dude like if you wanna do that, thats okay. instead of making me feel bad about wanting to be gone, or telling me no i cant do that, she said yeah bro thats cool. not like, yeah go kill yourself. xD but just. thats how you feel and thats valid and ya know. and nobody ever acted that way before and it was like. i cant even explain it but it was this great feeling. its like multiplication yo. two negatives make a positive. never worked before because a negative and a positive still makes a negative...

and it is hard to be in a relationship with someone without depression, because they always want to help and its like. no. xD you cant help. this is just something that is going to be and when i get in a hole and i cant get out, you cant do anything to help me out. you cant throw me a ladder or a rope. you can talk to me, and comfort me in my hole, but im the only one that can slowly climb out. and it was hard for brian to accept that at first, and it is hard to pull someone else down in my hole with me because i dont want to do that. though honestly its less of me pulling and more of him jumping into the abyss himself. xP but i think he has come to terms with it and instead of trying to say things to make me feel better, he will just be there, or leave me alone if i ask him to, and eventually i will find my own way out. i suppose its a learning experience.

but damn, that sounds like you have done a lot and you should definitely be proud of yourself!!! :D i mean thats really awesome that you did everything by yourself. i cant imagine how hard it would be to go back and finish something after not being able to at first. i dont know if i could do that. part of the reason i made myself finish college and go to my classes was because i knew if i stopped, i would never ever come back to finish. i often have to do things all at once like that. studying, writing papers... i had to do them in one setting, and stay up all night because otherwise i would not have been able to find the motivation to continue.

and as much as the pressure my family has put on me sucked, i think it sort of conditioned me and helped in the end. because shit, ive never had the motivation to do work. but i know how to. and i can. and i always did my work in high school, and in college. even if i thought it was the most pointless thing in the world, i just did it. without really thinking about it, without stopping to consider how meaningless it was. there were a few times in college that i was .. way too far down a hole and all my energy had to be focused on continuing to live, and i absolutely could not do my work. but i explained to my professors why, and turned in my work late. and only one still gave me late points, cause she was a bitch xDD but yeah my parents conditioned me to do school work, as awful as that sounds, it was actually helpful. ariel would ask me how i did it and i would tell her dude i dont know i just do it, even if i think its meaningless i dont even know.

so yeah mercu you are definitely correct in the pressure category, my dad always said that Bs were bad and anything less than an A was unacceptable. and he expects me to get a good job because he paid for me to go to college, but hey that might just not happen yet. xD but that is why they continue to pester me, because my dad will of course think it was a waste of money to send me to college if im just going to get a mediocre job. but ive never cared about making money... of course i would prefer not to be poor, but hey other things are more important.

and mercu, thank you for justifying my feelings. but even so, i dont like to feel that way. i like to be peaceful. i like to be chill. it helps. i never get angry, except when someone hurts ariel or someone else i love. i get frustrated, like at the goddamn fr coli xD but almost never angry. its an emotion i hate to feel, and i cant handle other people directing their anger at me. i can never date anyone who gets angry easily. its just not going to work, i will cry and feel awful for weeks. >.<

I have never played Valkyrie Profile but it looks pretty~ and yeah night shift definitely sound like my cup of tea. i actually applied to a few jobs with the overnight shift - from like 10 pm - 7 am xD that actually sounds good to me. :3

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 Post subject: Re: 「sotano 」 - talk tourabu to me
Posted: Jun 29th, '15, 20:04    


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I made a poor attempt at it a while ago xD
People really don't understand at all.

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 Post subject: Re: 「sotano 」 - talk tourabu to me
Posted: Jun 30th, '15, 22:48    


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:c I don't wanna put stickers on something, then it gets used up or outdated and I have to throw it away AND THE STICKERS ARE STILL ON IT.

And this is why I put them on letters AT LEAST LETTERS ARE TREASURED FOREVER.

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