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Post subject: Re: AlizzzZone: [Lace Agate] [Takeshita Dori] and many more Posted: Oct 28th, '15, 08:21 |
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Ziaheart
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Hi, Vineda. Native speakers would be amazing, especially if they are new to your country. Once people start becoming bilingual, their L2 start to colour their L1. Especially if they're late bilinguals, strangely enough. I would love to get some recordings of them saying some Japanese words: some starting with p, t, k, b, d, g and some with those sounds in the middle of the word. Thank you if you can help me and don't worry about it if you can't. 
Alice, it sounds like you're a prescriptive linguist. My thesis (which I handed in and got A for back in 2010) was more of a descriptive paper: this is what's happening and these are the theories as to why and this is what I predict will happen in the future. It wasn't treated as a problem that needed to be solved or were there any attempts to correct this that were mentioned in any of the papers I analyzed.
I don't have any contacts in Japan... I was tempted to ask some of my students to record some words for me back when I had Japanese students but I was always afraid of conflict of interest.
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Post subject: Re: AlizzzZone: [Lace Agate] [Takeshita Dori] and many more Posted: Oct 28th, '15, 10:57 |
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AliceON
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no, I'm more of a theorist. so for me solving a problem is expalining what's happening. like "this works but this doesn't even though it should, so let's see what might be that which licenses the first but disallows the second". I'm not a fan of prescriptivism, it's only good on early stages of learning a second language XD
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Post subject: Re: AlizzzZone: [Lace Agate] [Takeshita Dori] and many more Posted: Oct 28th, '15, 18:16 |
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Vineda
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Ziaheart wrote:Hi, Vineda. Native speakers would be amazing, especially if they are new to your country. Once people start becoming bilingual, their L2 start to colour their L1. Especially if they're late bilinguals, strangely enough. I would love to get some recordings of them saying some Japanese words: some starting with p, t, k, b, d, g and some with those sounds in the middle of the word. Thank you if you can help me and don't worry about it if you can't.
Alice, it sounds like you're a prescriptive linguist. My thesis (which I handed in and got A for back in 2010) was more of a descriptive paper: this is what's happening and these are the theories as to why and this is what I predict will happen in the future. It wasn't treated as a problem that needed to be solved or were there any attempts to correct this that were mentioned in any of the papers I analyzed.
I don't have any contacts in Japan... I was tempted to ask some of my students to record some words for me back when I had Japanese students but I was always afraid of conflict of interest.
I'll ask around! Who knows right! It definitely can't hurt to try!
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The mind is its own place, and in itself can make heaven of hell, a hell of heaven.
~ John Milton ~
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I needed more mushu, so here you go:
Also looking for the Halloween knuffel! 
Looking for the disco funk lips and sleeping beauty items!!!
temporarily back in lurking mode until I'm used to the new job....
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Post subject: Re: AlizzzZone: [Lace Agate] [Takeshita Dori] and many more Posted: Nov 1st, '15, 16:10 |
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Poshi
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Post subject: Re: AlizzzZone: [Lace Agate] [Takeshita Dori] and many more Posted: Nov 1st, '15, 18:21 |
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AliceON
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hey! yea, I don't have any atm but I'll put you on a waiting list if you want..?
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Post subject: Re: AlizzzZone: [Lace Agate] [Takeshita Dori] and many more Posted: Nov 2nd, '15, 05:43 |
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Poshi
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Post subject: Re: AlizzzZone: [Lace Agate] [Takeshita Dori] and many more Posted: Nov 2nd, '15, 15:52 |
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VampMiyu
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Post subject: Re: AlizzzZone: [Lace Agate] [Takeshita Dori] and many more Posted: Nov 2nd, '15, 16:54 |
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AliceON
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I'm sorry I don't have those items any longer
*updates post*
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Post subject: Re: AlizzzZone: [Lace Agate] [Takeshita Dori] and many more Posted: Nov 3rd, '15, 18:09 |
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KimiLavender
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Can I have a whole set? Soooo pretty :D
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Post subject: Re: AlizzzZone: [Lace Agate] [Takeshita Dori] and many more Posted: Nov 3rd, '15, 22:49 |
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AliceON
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I'll put you on the waiting list if that's ok
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