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Post subject: Re: *Private* Tripping the Light Fantastic Posted: Nov 2nd, '17, 17:09 |
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Formiana

Joined: Aug 14th, '14, 17:29 Posts: 559 Hugs: 8168 Mood: Nonplussed
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Two plots. Wow. Think of all the plot you could have if you added a third plot. Three plots. Or ten. Ten plots.
Why do you need two plots in the first place? Are you doing an ensemble cast or something?
The rules:
Letters that aren't allowed: c, j, l, q, x, y, z
Non-letter sounds that are allowed: zh as in Zhou, sh as in shoe, ng as in Nguyen (anywhere in a word)
Vowels use German pronunciation.
Consonant clusters are almost nonexistent. Words can end in a vowel, with ng, with n, with r, with t, or with d.
Women's names are typically three or four syllables long and end with "ni", "eng", "in", or "on".
Men's names are two-three syllables and end with d, r, n, or a vowel.
See? Too many rules. Too complicated.
Fight and win. Down with foul trivia that takes you away from your work. Down with grad school that keeps you from writing.
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Post subject: Re: *Private* Tripping the Light Fantastic Posted: Nov 2nd, '17, 17:26 |
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Stroctoperry

Joined: Aug 18th, '14, 04:23 Posts: 669 Hugs: 12475 Mood: Lazy
Website: https://www.fanfiction.net/u/1701656/LordofDorkness
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I think I have a third plot, but I haven't articulated it separately. But it's a romance, so it doesn't count toward the total. Isn't that right? So two plots is fine. And it's more like there's one immediate plot that directly affects the protagonist, and one setting-wide plot that influences the smaller plot, but where he isn't a major player.
The main fandom is the MCU (minus the C whenever I feel like it). It's an ensemble cast by default.
Isn't ng pronounced like w? And it seems like mostly you've just removed all the k soundalikes, shifted the pronunciation of z, and r will effectively be standing in for l. German meaning... mafia eel hay toe pool? For A I E O U. Diphthongs allowed? Could you have an entire word composed of n? Nnn. Nnng. There's two names right there. Each one is three syllables. Sound them out.
Not that complicated. You're just not used to it yet. Have you tried coming up with names you like and just editing them to fit the system? Mohamed fits this system. There. Everyone can be named Mohamed.
Please note I surpassed the preset goal, even though I did not meet the Reverse NaNo goal. And we got 3rd at trivia (would have been 2nd, but Diane got cocky on the final question and we lost 20 points).
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Post subject: Re: *Private* Tripping the Light Fantastic Posted: Nov 2nd, '17, 22:34 |
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Formiana

Joined: Aug 14th, '14, 17:29 Posts: 559 Hugs: 8168 Mood: Nonplussed
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According to most of the writers of the crappy romance ebooks I download, a romance is the only plot you need, as long as you tack a hackneyed murder "mystery" on top. Although I think I read some advice somewhere that you get one plot for the first 40,000 words and then one subplot for every 20,000 words thereafter. Or something along those lines?
The MCU doesn't demand an ensemble cast. Lots of writers are happy to focus in on only the people they care about. You brought this ensemble cast on yourself with your enthusiasm for assigning roles.
Ng is pronounced at the back of the throat. And yes, those are the German pronunciations to which I was referring.
I didn't think about diphthongs. I don't want to name any of my characters Nnn. Or Nnng. Nothing that sounds like a yummy noise.
You say you want to help, so help me! Mohamed would be fine except it's already a name. I don't want anything that sounds too much like a real name.
Why do you insist on reversing NaNo? NaNo is hard enough without self-imposed challenges.
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Post subject: Re: *Private* Tripping the Light Fantastic Posted: Nov 3rd, '17, 00:30 |
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Stroctoperry

Joined: Aug 18th, '14, 04:23 Posts: 669 Hugs: 12475 Mood: Lazy
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I thought you got one plot and one sub-plot for a 50k novel, and romance was extra. Those were the lines I remember.
Fine. It's my fault. It continues to exist.
Nnng doesn't sound like a yummy noise. That would obviously be Mmn and Mmng. They're a power couple. They fight crime.
If real names fit the naming scheme, why are they not acceptable? Why wouldn't your centipede aliens all call themselves Mohamed?
What sort of names do you want? I'll alien-ize them for you.
I know it's easier now than it will be in 20 days. I get bored. Short attention span.
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Post subject: Re: *Private* Tripping the Light Fantastic Posted: Nov 3rd, '17, 16:45 |
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Formiana

Joined: Aug 14th, '14, 17:29 Posts: 559 Hugs: 8168 Mood: Nonplussed
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Eh. I don't feel like looking it up. I still think a romance counts as one of your subplots, at least if you give it more than minimal attention.
How much attention do you actually have to pay to the over-plot? Is the MC even aware that it's happening most of the time?
I don't want any names that sound like real names because this story is meant to be read by people who inhabit our universe. "Oberon" would be a perfectly acceptable woman's name, by my rules, but that doesn't mean I want hypothetical readers puzzling over why I named a lady after the fairy king.
How about I just give you a list of names I've already used and you come up with some more?
Women's names: Novesani, Darazhon, Ngadurin, Dovulaneng, Idoni, Andesani, Merudon
Men's names: Vidor, Doruvon, Angor, Daru, Kefid
I am more in need of men's names. Please assist.
Did you make your goal yesterday? I did, but I'm already at the "staying up until midnight to finish" stage.
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Post subject: Re: *Private* Tripping the Light Fantastic Posted: Nov 3rd, '17, 17:25 |
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Stroctoperry

Joined: Aug 18th, '14, 04:23 Posts: 669 Hugs: 12475 Mood: Lazy
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Nope! I will take as many plots as I want.
The overplot is a major political upheaval. You can’t miss it.
Will anyone who reads this realize how they are meant to pronounce ng? Did you make a decision about diphthongs?
Ara Arar Arad Aran Aro Ari Aru Are
Arara Ararar Ararad Araran Araro Arari Araru Arare
Azha Azhar Azhad Azhan Azho Azhi Azhu Azhe
Azhara Azharar...
Continue to explore namespace at your leisure.
Staying up late is just NaNo.
The power went out on campus! People were stuck in the elevator and the doors all got stuck on lock!
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Post subject: Re: *Private* Tripping the Light Fantastic Posted: Nov 3rd, '17, 23:50 |
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Formiana

Joined: Aug 14th, '14, 17:29 Posts: 559 Hugs: 8168 Mood: Nonplussed
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If the overplot is unmissable it probably counts against your limit, and the romance does too. Tsk. Too many plots. For shame.
I can't control how readers pronounce anything. I'm using ng because I want that sound in my language and it's the best rendering in english the language nerds of the internet provided for me. If you can think of a better way I'd take it.
I have decided! No diphthongs!
Why is your list so helpful? You were literally just going through combinations! That shouldn't work! But it did! The love interest is named Azha now!
Did you get stuck somewhere? Could you hear the screams of the people trapped in elevators?
Your new avatar is super cool. Where did you get those wings???
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Post subject: Re: *Private* Tripping the Light Fantastic Posted: Nov 4th, '17, 04:19 |
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Stroctoperry

Joined: Aug 18th, '14, 04:23 Posts: 669 Hugs: 12475 Mood: Lazy
Website: https://www.fanfiction.net/u/1701656/LordofDorkness
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Woo! I'm invincible!
I still think Nguyen is pronounced "when" so I'm the worst person to ask.
It's helpful because that's the right way to do it. Go through some more if you need more names. Mara has spoken. (i'm invincible)
No. I was in the lab, and we just propped the door open before going outside. We did need to go shout at the elevator people to reassure them that we knew they were there, though. It was the creepy elevator at the back of the lab.
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Post subject: Re: *Private* Tripping the Light Fantastic Posted: Nov 4th, '17, 04:20 |
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Stroctoperry

Joined: Aug 18th, '14, 04:23 Posts: 669 Hugs: 12475 Mood: Lazy
Website: https://www.fanfiction.net/u/1701656/LordofDorkness
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Oops. Missed a line.
The wings were in one of the recent Treasure Trove sets, I think.
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Post subject: Re: *Private* Tripping the Light Fantastic Posted: Nov 5th, '17, 02:18 |
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Formiana

Joined: Aug 14th, '14, 17:29 Posts: 559 Hugs: 8168 Mood: Nonplussed
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So you did get to hear the tiny screams of the trapped? That seems like the worst elevator to get trapped in. How long were they in there?
Yesterday I read some insurance commercial fanfiction. It has a surprisingly strong body of characters to draw from. There was also an appearance by The Man Your Man Could Smell Like. The writers in this "fandom" seem to enjoy hard-hitting fantasy and SF plot points, like demon cults and the apocalypse. They also seem to agree that representatives for the different insurance companies are on friendly terms and willing to team up.
This double-up day is going super well. It looks like I'm going to be able to write double my usual amount. Whoo! What about you, whoo?
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