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 Post subject: Re: The 2018 Reading Challenge
Posted: Aug 5th, '18, 15:36    


AliceON

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not every writer of middle grade can or want to as well write ya. some write in the same genre but different categories, some in the same age category, and different genres. plus, HP follows specifically school years. they act as a frame for books timelines. now if more authors do this they'll be criticized for attempting another HP. on the other hand, school is an inevitable part of a child's life. how are you to avoid this time frame if you write in those age categories?

I can think of an example of Angelique, a 13-band historical romance where the protagonist starts at 17 (there's a deal of her childhood but the main events start at that age) and the books are over when she's over 40. this of course has no school year time frame but the content doesn't transition from ya to na to adult, it's adult all through.

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 Post subject: Re: The 2018 Reading Challenge
Posted: Aug 5th, '18, 15:54    


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This reminds me of the movie Boyhood. Have you heard of it? It's about a family growing up over the years, from the kids being children up until their adult years (or almost adult, i forgot), and they used the same actors over the 12 years it took to film the movie. It's quite an interesting concept, and it was a pretty good movie too :mchappy:

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 Post subject: Re: The 2018 Reading Challenge
Posted: Aug 5th, '18, 16:21    


AliceON

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oh that's interesting. haven't heard of it yet

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 Post subject: Re: The 2018 Reading Challenge
Posted: Aug 6th, '18, 11:13    


jacobgrey

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I'm not sure England is as cute as you imagine xD Really it's super inconvenient because the post offices are tiny now and there's hardly any services, plus the staff are always overstretched and rude. I heard recently there was a poll or something that voted that particular bookstore as the worst for customer service across the whole high street XD

I don't know if I feel like the HP books do really cross age boundaries. They don't actually go into the older YA category, they don't tackle big contemporary issues like most YA do - there's no sex, the characters don't seem to go through puberty at all given how they are described, they don't have to worry about things like independence from their parents or I could go on and on. Then again the very early books aren't strictly younger YA either. The content doesn't shift much in terms of age range, and the writing style/difficulty remains the same, it just seems that way because the characters get older.

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 Post subject: Re: The 2018 Reading Challenge
Posted: Aug 6th, '18, 11:19    


AliceON

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you may be right here
one can tell I've never read the later books

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 Post subject: Re: The 2018 Reading Challenge
Posted: Aug 6th, '18, 12:02    


LittleJulez

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As interesting as this topic is to me I'd better refrain from writing about it or I will end up writing an essay here xD
I delved into that topic last year, in depth, for my thesis. I read so many books on that topic and I must have read the first HP for at least 3 times.
The only thing I can tell you is that people read everything into Harry Potter. I was surprised how many gay stuff they can get out of the whole story (although I doubt it was intended that way except for Dumbledore). E.g. some authors see phallic symbols in the books everywhere (the wand being one e.g.).

But I have to say that the books are about growing up, tackling teenage issues, growing responsible for one's actions etc.

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 Post subject: Re: The 2018 Reading Challenge
Posted: Aug 6th, '18, 12:47    


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@Jacob oh that's a shame about the book store. :mcsad: I always hear people from England saying 'Why would you wanna live here? it's so gloomy and rains all the time' but that's actually a big reason why I wanna go to England. :mctongue: And, this is so random, it's such a minor detail :mclaugh: , but.. the grass! It must be so green :mclove: among other reasons


I didn't know that the HP book contents didn't shift much :mcconf: I imagine it was a bit easier to show the characters maturing in the movies, considering the actors WERE actually growing up while filming. I just know that there is a very definite and obvious maturity throughout the movies. The first ones sit more as standalone movies than the later ones. I feel like the movies move from being a bunch of kids on an adventure/s (you can watch the philosopher's stone, for example, without needing to watch the next movie to understand the story) to relying a lot more heavily on the storyline and complexity that has been built up throughout the series (eg in the later movies I feel like I need to watch the next movie to get a full sense of the story and have questions answered or storylines feeling complete).

And I think that because the first movies feel more like standalones it kind of further emphasises the intended audience's age maturing. Like you don't expect a child to be able to understand or have the attention span to follow along with a complex storyline as much as you would an adult.

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 Post subject: Re: The 2018 Reading Challenge
Posted: Aug 6th, '18, 13:00    


AliceON

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omg there are few things more annoying than rewriting your thesis in a forum post :mcdead:

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 Post subject: Re: The 2018 Reading Challenge
Posted: Aug 6th, '18, 13:56    


jacobgrey

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@Ghost oh man our grass... nope. Nope at all XD Right now we're having one of the worst heatwaves for a long time, and all the grass is pretty much dead. What remains is mostly grey or brownish. Also if you're in a city you're not likely to see much grass anyway XD I feel like it's kind of rare to find well-maintained grass really, it's usually just the odd private residence in a village or small town that will pay attention to their lawn.

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 Post subject: Re: The 2018 Reading Challenge
Posted: Aug 6th, '18, 14:01    


Ghost

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lol maybe the grass isn't greener on the other side (of the world). :mclaugh: I'm just so used to seeing dead grass all the time except in the middle of winter, which it is right now. How high is the temperature getting over there?

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